Time to File a Class Action Lawsuit Regarding the P4P+

[lickitysplit11111]

Have you sought legal counsel?

Why not, then solicit other parties if you have a case.

The law firm made it very easy to join the suit once it was started they ran ads on forum and photography sites with a deadline ,it took a total of 9 months from the time I signed on till I had a replacement camera in hand.
When the company's wrong they just wanna settle it as quickly and quietly as possible to the point of asking you to sign a non-disclosure agreement.

..Nikon Settles D600 Class Action Lawsuit by Offering D600 Owners Free D610s

 

[andy_k]

but crucially Nikon users hadn't accepted an agreement stating that they wouldn't open class action law suits like every single Phantom owner has.

the D600 wasn't performing to spec byut the P4Pro+ is - it's just not doing what some people would like it to do.

That seems like dodgy grounds for any law suit no matter where you are in the world

 

[N017RW]

The law firm made it very easy to join the suit once it was started they ran ads on forum and photography sites with a deadline ,it took a total of 9 months from the time I signed on till I had a replacement camera in hand.
When the company's wrong they just wanna settle it as quickly and quietly as possible to the point of asking you to sign a non-disclosure agreement.

..Nikon Settles D600 Class Action Lawsuit by Offering D600 Owners Free D610s

What does this have to do with my question to the OP?

 

[lickitysplit11111]

but crucially Nikon users hadn't accepted an agreement stating that they wouldn't open class action law suits like every single Phantom owner has.

the D600 wasn't performing to spec byut the P4Pro+ is - it's just not doing what some people would like it to do.

That seems like dodgy grounds for any law suit no matter where you are in the world

You sound just like the Nikon fanboy's until the lawsuit's announcement was made , then they scurried away into the woodwork like cockroaches.

 

[andy_k]

You sound just like the Nikon fanboy's until the lawsuit's announcement was made , then they scurried away into the woodwork like cockroaches.

What are you talking about? That post of yours makes no sense - what happened with Nikon was different because the Nikon users had not agreed to the same terms and conditions.

 

[lickitysplit11111]

What does this have to do with my question to the OP?

It has everything to do with it.

 

[BigAl07]

Ok this is getting out of hand. Get back on track or we will shut this thread down for good.

PM's have been sent out . . .

 

[hb-bob]

I think we have exhausted this topic. Be aware p4p+ users that the waypoint function is barely functional. You are limited to three saved missions, you cannot delete any of the saved missions, a fourth saved mission will result in the deletion of the oldest of the previous three missions. At least that is the way the DJI go software works on my p4p+ RC.

As a result, it is very difficult to fly repeatable missions. All DJI would need to do to correct this problem would be to incorporate their own DJI GS Pro app into this RC.

 

[Jimbo_D]

Think 'within 30 days or some other reasonable timeframe' is mutually exclusive.

 

[ksiads]

Add a 3DR Solo to your stable. The company has forgone consumer products altogether in favor of mapping. And talk about an open ecosystem. It doesn't get more open source than that.

I'm not trying to deflect the OP's contention that DJI has not delivered on a promise (implied or otherwise). All I'm saying is, if one drone won't act as a Swiss Army Knife it might make sense to pick up some specialized gear.

 

[Petros5678]

The P4 pro + has been out for 7 months now.
From the first week it's been known that it's a closed ecosystem and installing 3rd party apps is not possible.
But because you assumed it would, you think you are owed compensation?
And you want to give most of that to a lawyer?
Let me know how that goes.

btw ... The only GS pro that DJI have released is the iOS version.
Android users can't use it either.
But that's no big deal.
Anyone wanting to do mapping surveys uses DroneDeploy anyway.

Phantom forum generates a most popular topics email, thats the only way I still sometimes read some of the content on this site.

And this thread plus your typical mod reflex of placing a wet blankie over his frustrations is the reason I stay away from DJI.

China uses deception advertising to generate more sales? NO! Thats a first. *sarcasm intended

I start questioning someones loyalty if its continuously biased towards someone or something.

You have a pleasant day.

 

[Bill S]

Why don't you just buy a second remote for the 4Pro and save yourself one hell of a lot of aggravation. $300. Then you have the best of both.

 

[jplchance]

If you are interested in joining a class action lawsuit against DJI for false and deceptive marketing practices for the P4P+ model, let me know. Below is my recent message to them regarding the lack of functionality associated with the waypoint function:

"I still have heard nothing back from the specialist about the lack of functionality with the waypoint function for the p4p+. DJI's description of the p4p+ "...the Phantom 4 Pro + a complete aerial imaging solution" is simply untrue, deceptive, and inaccurate since it cannot perform waypoint flights in manner similar to the IOS version using DJI GS Pro app. Many of us who bought this product assumed it was equal of better than the p4p model which it is not. As a consequence, if you do not produce a version the DJI GS Pro app that is useable by the p4p+ model within 30 days or some other reasonable timeframe, you can expect a class action suit to be filed by owners of the p4p+ model for fraudulent and deceptive practices of DJI."

Although the terms of agreements in the DJI firmware and apps make you agree that you cannot file a class action lawsuit, I don't believe that that agreement prevents anyone from filing a CALS for deceptive business practices. Individuals pay $1,500.00 and above for a product in which the company advertises that the product contains specific features and capabilities that the buyer desires. After having bought the product for those specific features and capabilities and the company then removes those features are capabilities, then the company acted in a deceptive manner in order to sell the product.
This would be like buying a new car that is advertised to go 200 mph and then a few months after the purchase, you bring the car into the dealership for maintenance and the technicians download firmware that allows your car to go only 120 mph because they are afraid of being sued for a traffic accident as a result of you speeding.
DJI needs to unlock all of their new restrictions and let the owner be responsible for their actions and not have a knee-jerk reaction for the irresponsible actions of a few others.

 

[John Locke]

DJI has clearly removed the ability to revert to previous firmware, AFTER I bought my P4P. That's what I'm ticked about. However I don't think that was and advertised feature, even though it was well known.

 

[Meta4]

Individuals pay $1,500.00 and above for a product in which the company advertises that the product contains specific features and capabilities that the buyer desires. After having bought the product for those specific features and capabilities and the company then removes those features are capabilities, then the company acted in a deceptive manner in order to sell the product.

What are the features or capabilities that were advertised and later removed?

 

[KevMo Photog]

It's a shame that so many I'm sure bought the P4P+ version only to be disappointed with them because of software issues. I would have to say bite the bullet and order a new controller and be done with it! Screen is so small anyway imo.

 

[KiloOne]

Why don't you just buy a second remote for the 4Pro and save yourself one hell of a lot of aggravation. $300. Then you have the best of both.

More like $434 plus tax... for the GL300F, HDMI module and iPad hood, if you want to stay with comparable hardware. AND, you have to own an iPad.

 

[Method007]

The law firm made it very easy to join the suit once it was started they ran ads on forum and photography sites with a deadline ,it took a total of 9 months from the time I signed on till I had a replacement camera in hand.
When the company's wrong they just wanna settle it as quickly and quietly as possible to the point of asking you to sign a non-disclosure agreement.

..Nikon Settles D600 Class Action Lawsuit by Offering D600 Owners Free D610s

Your Nikon example is completely different and in no way resembles what OP is claiming. You did not buy a product and then turn around and complain that its doing exactly what it's designed to do. The Nikon case was a perfect example of when a class action lawsuit is necessary and possible. OP's claims are a good example of absolutely nothing. He has no basis to sue for anything at all. He is the perfect legal example of buyer beware.

These "let's start a class action lawsuit because I don't understand specific things and refuse to mitigate my own circumstances" posts are reflective of the OP. They serve no other purpose.

 

[u000gbk]

After reading ALL of this my only comment is for DJI to hire some competent programmers that can correctly fix the firmware code for the "plus" version to work as advertized and as expected, dependably. Then all of this goes away and they get MORE happy customers doing free advertising about the quality of the product. All of this and the other unmentioned issues, all stem from poor quality control and insufficient testing of the software before they release ... in general !!!

 

[Russ43Phantom]

Having had the DJI 4 Pro +, I believe it is a superior controller when you want (1) to fly manually (no intelligent flight modes); (2) you like better visibiity on your display, (3) you like easy, quick set-up time, (4) you don't want to worry about an iPhone/iPad's battery life, and (5) you don't like messy wire connections.

On the other hand, if you want to use enhanced modes of operation, mapping software, or 3rd party software, the Pro+ is not the controller of choice. Rather then wasting money, time, and fighting DJI, I recommend for $300 you buy a standard P4P controller. I did that. Admittedly, I then used my P4P+ most of the time because, in my case, most of my flying objectives were better met by the desireds expressed in the first paragraph above.