Looks like it's class G airspace around the Huntington pier.
Yes. That we know and are happy with.
There aren't any special local restrictions. However, in about 11 days, there will be a TFR/NOTAM in the area.
Looks like it's class G airspace around the Huntington pier.
The TFR/NOTAM is because of the air show on the weekend of Oct 21.TFRs always take priority. Assume there will be some event or VIP visit to the area. Smart to check.
Haven't flown at all with the new P4. No free time yet being one reason and general confusion since 107 went live. Airspace is giving me fits. Plus I read on another site that E airspace does not require communication with ATC for manned aircraft. Or at least that's how I understood the comment. So why do we have to contact ATC or more correctly request authorization on the web portal to fly in Class E airspace. I saw the comment above about HB pier being in G and I would agree. OCD is making me too **** about flying at all now.Hey @Timothy Hulme, are you flying lately? If so, where? HB?
Dude, just get out and fly—your OCD will take care of itself! LOL!OCD is making me too **** about flying at all now.
I use UAV Forecast because not only does it show my the weather at ground level (as well as displaying wind speed at whatever altitude I plan on flying), it also shows DJI NFZs, airports, TFRs, etc. Sometimes, I use AirMap.Part of my ongoing concern is if you use the B4UFLY app we can't fly period. It shows every airport and heliport in the area. Use an app like Hover and it only shows John Wayne and even more interesting Hover shows me just outside of the five mile radius. So who do we trust ? FAA app or some third party. Neither could be perfect. Air map app is somewhere between the other two. Do we pick the app that works for us an play dumb?
If you're flying under Part 107, don't use B4UFLY. It is intended for recreational flights which have different rules than commercial flight.Part of my ongoing concern is if you use the B4UFLY app we can't fly period. It shows every airport and heliport in the area. Use an app like Hover and it only shows John Wayne and even more interesting Hover shows me just outside of the five mile radius. So who do we trust ? FAA app or some third party. Neither could be perfect. Air map app is somewhere between the other two. Do we pick the app that works for us an play dumb?
Airspace is giving me fits. Plus I read on another site that E airspace does not require communication with ATC for manned aircraft. Or at least that's how I understood the comment. So why do we have to contact ATC or more correctly request authorization on the web portal to fly in Class E airspace.
@N42742 at the moment I'm recreational ONLY. Working toward taking my part 107 exam. Following the letter of the regulations we here in the HB area are required to contact Airports prior to flying if we are within Five miles. Correct? It's my understanding that includes heliports (they show up on before you fly and airmap) aside fro KSNA which the biggie there are no less than a dozen heliports under five miles away from pretty much any location I might like to fly at. It seems intrusive that I contact them all. Not to mention fruitless as many would have no clue. As for KSNA as I understand it currently we are to contact them thru the web portal for notification/aurhorization rather than call ATC and or OPS. Correct? That pretty much means days or weeks of waiting to be approved just for an hour of leasure flying. Obviously I'm confused. The course work I reading is of course for commercial and I have yet to find any thing that gets into the meat of recreational use.If you're flying under Part 107, don't use B4UFLY. It is intended for recreational flights which have different rules than commercial flight.
How are you going to submit your own NOTAMs? I assume your still operating as recreational?I use UAV Forecast because not only does it show my the weather at ground level (as well as displaying wind speed at whatever altitude I plan on flying), it also shows DJI NFZs, airports, TFRs, etc. Sometimes, I use AirMap.
I'm also going to start submitting my own NOTAMs indicating my UOA, so that at least it shows due-diligence on my part, if I ever get questioned.
Recreational use rules haven't changed. you still ONLY need to contact an airport/tower when you will be flying within 5 miles of the airport (which should include any controlled airspace) to notify (not ask for permission) them. I usually call an hour or 2 before, let them know where, when, how high and duration. I don't think that it is even possible to track down who to call for all of the heliports around. I usually take the FAA at their word and just worry about airports. And keep an eye and ear our for any low flying craft (either fixed wing or helos).@N42742 at the moment I'm recreational ONLY. Working toward taking my part 107 exam. Following the letter of the regulations we here in the HB area are required to contact Airports prior to flying if we are within Five miles. Correct? It's my understanding that includes heliports (they show up on before you fly and airmap) aside fro KSNA which the biggie there are no less than a dozen heliports under five miles away from pretty much any location I might like to fly at. It seems intrusive that I contact them all. Not to mention fruitless as many would have no clue. As for KSNA as I understand it currently we are to contact them thru the web portal for notification/aurhorization rather than call ATC and or OPS. Correct? That pretty much means days or weeks of waiting to be approved just for an hour of leasure flying. Obviously I'm confused. The course work I reading is of course for commercial and I have yet to find any thing that gets into the meat of recreational use.
Let me just add a tad more here. This is from the Federal Register regarding Public Law 112-95, section 336(c), which is where the hobby rules and definitions come from.
https://www.federalregister.gov/d/2014-14948/p-51
"Finally, the statute sets a requirement for model aircraft operating within 5 miles of an airport to notify
the airport operator and control tower, where applicable, prior to operating. If the model aircraft
operator provides notice of forthcoming operations which are then not authorized by air traffic or objected to by the airport operator, the FAA expects the model aircraft operator will not conduct the proposed flights.
The FAA would consider flying model aircraft over the objections of FAA air traffic or airport operators to be endangering the safety of the NAS. Additionally, we note that following this 5-mile notification procedure would be read in conjunction with FAA rules governing airspace usage discussed below. "
I read once in the regulations and can not find again that heliport are airports per FAA definition. That's where my concern comes in here in HB. Their all over the place. BUT, they are obviously untowered and as such could be considered class G airspace unless they fall under the vail of an actual airports class b,c,d,e airspace. Thus notification would not be needed. Correct?Quoted from the regulations. Does this means I have to join AMA and in the case of a city such as Costa Mesa fly only at their city designated field and pay a yearly permit fee to do so? Costa Mesa has a no drone ordinance except at Fairview Park
- the aircraft is operated in accordance with a community-based set of safety guidelines and within the programming of a nationwide community-based organization.
I'll second that!The AMA will say you do need to join them.
This guy says the FAA says no. The FAA Says AMA Membership Is NOT Required To Fly Your Model! - Drone Business Center
I know nothing about Costa Mesa. "community-based" does not necessarily mean a physical area, ie, the "Intelligence Community"
I say let's start our own nationwide community-based organization just for sUAS's.
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