The new V+ under the shell, GPS Shielding and more!

saltire said:
N017RW said:
That's why all pilots should learn how to fly in Atti. mode.
Thats why Dji should sort the problem instead of selling quads with known faults simples.


Man-made = imperfect... get used to it already. ;)
 
I just finished designing a new shield for the undercarriage after I have seen other people doing the same. Has anyone noticed any significant improvements after it is installed. I can't get out and test until it quits snowing. Maybe a video after the snow might look nice.

RB
 

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Thats great looking and should help if you have any issues and should increase passive GPS gain by at least a decibel by way of attenuation of EMI .
 
RedBaron said:
I just finished designing a new shield for the undercarriage after I have seen other people doing the same. Has anyone noticed any significant improvements after it is installed. I can't get out and test until it quits snowing. Maybe a video after the snow might look nice.

RB


wow go go go... pleas update us what ever changes in your experiment good luck
 
RedBaron said:
I just finished designing a new shield for the undercarriage after I have seen other people doing the same. Has anyone noticed any significant improvements after it is installed. I can't get out and test until it quits snowing. Maybe a video after the snow might look nice.

RB


wow go go go... pleas update us what ever changes in your experiment good luck
 
RedBaron said:
I just finished designing a new shield for the undercarriage after I have seen other people doing the same. Has anyone noticed any significant improvements after it is installed. I can't get out and test until it quits snowing. Maybe a video after the snow might look nice.

RB
Nice neat and tidy work Redbaron that should help how bad was your sat drop out before hand .
Was that done on a machine or by hand .
 
I designed it in a great free program called LibreCad and used a cutter/plotter to cut it out. I have had a couple of weird incidents that lead to crashes. My inside the shell mod has improved my satellite connections in the house from around 4 to around 6. I haven't tested to see what the difference is with this undercarriage mod. Even if it is hardly noticeable in change for the better I will take what I can get.

RB
 
Thanks for you efforts; please keep us posted.
Btw what kind of material did you use for you shielding.
 
This is made from the same adhesive backed foil I use in my satellite shield. The results of my testing showed that I was getting a strong 6 in the house after 3 minutes. What impressed me was a strong 10 in the driveway about 15 feet up! Turning on and off the recorder had no effect are all!!!!!
 
Does anyone know where to buy the copper shielding that DJI uses?
 
Installed the Dakota Wings GPS Shielding and Undercarriage today. Amazing what a very good result.
Indoors 6 satellites within 2 minutes, and no change when turning on or of video. (previous 0!)
Live in Sweden and i took 6 days via post from Fargo to my place! Thanks Norm for good service! :D
Now just waiting for a bit of nice weather!! 3 deg C NE wind 12m/sec expecting soon to see polar bears when looking out my window :lol:
 
RedBaron said:
I just finished designing a new shield for the undercarriage after I have seen other people doing the same. Has anyone noticed any significant improvements after it is installed. I can't get out and test until it quits snowing. Maybe a video after the snow might look nice.

RB

Very sexy!

Just curious.. Does that block out the flat wifi antennas located in the battery compartment?

They should have done the foil/copper upgrade in the entire phantom 2 revised line up. I got the upgraded Phantom 2 non vision and the copper was standard and did not go to the arms. I done the old foil mod anyways. More sats = less chance of an ATTI drift away.
 
I did the shield mod, and it was better on the V+ but not as good as the V was..

I broke out the old Vision+Rotorpixel (non +) on the workbench tinkering with Groundstation and was surprised I picked up 6 GPS Satellites indoors(have tall glass windows)..
So I swapped it with V+ on the same spot and went thru the startup procedure and it never locked on to any.. took it outside and it bearly got 7.. 6 mostly..

The best I've seen on my Vision+ is 7-8+ GPS lock versus a 9-10+ GPS Lock on the Vision non plus.. at the same fly location area.

I'm starting to like my old Vision+Rotorpixel back because it doesn't have the degraded GPS performance issues with the interference obviously happening...
The Old Vision still takes awesome pics.. sigh.
I think the interference is on the GPS cable near the connector..that connector wire...

My setup: V+ Stock vs Stock Vision + Rotorpixel
1080P set
Both Updated to the latest greatest updates except the battery update.
 
eyecon82 said:
Does the final 2 amplifiers in the wifi module have thermal compound?

That would require someone to take a new one apart and that would void DJI warranty.... :D

I really doubt they have gone in there and done that. It would have to be in the production chain and that portion appears to be automated.
 
Looks like i have the same issue as a lot of you here:

When i fly the bird without video, no problems and enough satellites. Hit record on the app and all hell breaks loose GPS fails, and we're into the panic mode of trying to fly the bird without GPS etc etc.

Forgive me, for I am not an RC specialist like a lot of you guys no doubt are, but is is EXTREMELY hard to fly in non GPS mode in my opinion.

Furthermore, DJI designed this product so that the average user could fly it safely and have fun with it by selling a product that was easy to use.

I'm a little taken back that people have spent £1000+ on this product and yet seem to just accept this fault and try and mend it/modify it themselves, surely this is a classic example of a product fault and DJI should be fixing the problem and replacing those PV2+'s that have this problem?

You wouldn't try and build your own brakes if you were sold a car which had faulty brakes would you?! It would get recalled.

I personally don't feel comfortable opening up the drone, let alone buying some sort of sheeting that I know nothing about and somehow fitting it; is there an option out there for the likes of myself that don't feel it is acceptable for DJI to take £1000 of my money to give me a faulty product?!
 
paulsheaves said:
I personally don't feel comfortable opening up the drone, let alone buying some sort of sheeting that I know nothing about and somehow fitting it
This is super easy to do. Just follow this step-by-step guide.
 
I know in the USA i believe Burlbark and a few others will fix all this up for you and make it work even better than factory.. They will do a bunch of diff tricks to make it work great. Some one posted up the results after they received there Phantom back from Burlbark and he was super impressed with the quality of work and results... But I see you are in the UK, so you'll need to find some one in the UK who can do the same job.... Its a fairly easy process to actually do and you don't need to solder or do anything electrical really... Just taking off the shell which is a few screws.. heaps of tutorials and getting some aluminium or copper tape.. Again a few tutorials on that to.. unless you have a V3 its really the only mod you would need to do... I can understand your frustration though... $1000+ and you should not have to touch anything... but unfortunately thats the situation.

If you want to give it a go you will receive heeeaaaps of support from most of us here as most of us have done it..

If you wanted to try the easiest method not involving you buying tape.. open up the shell and try to cover (under the shielding) as much of the GPS antenna cable as possible... You might find that does the trick, then when you get a bit more confidence you can experiement with adding more tape... I don't want to say you can't really screw it up... but as I said you don't need to solder or anything, so your literally just adding tape..easy to remove... Hardest part is making sure you have the right tools so you don't strips the screws... #N-0 size Philips for the 4 screws.. 1 at the end of each arm... and the other 10 are 2mm hex.. Would suggest making sure your hex tool is a long thing one as it makes removing the 4 screws closest to middle of phantom easier..

and btw we don't just accept it.. well we sort of do... but I mean even if we all complained DJI would not recall them and fix it up for us... They are aware there is a problem and fixed it for the V3, but yeah to late for us... so we just do what we have to do.. Unless you are going to return it and get a V3 your options are limited... As you said, flying in non gps mode is not safe... When I first got my Phantom I thought 'pffft who cares about gps' but after a real... true... fly away (Phantom was pretty close to me and not very high up. after a few mins it stopped responding to RC TX inputs and literally flew away.. into the wind!!!... luckily it RTH by its self and came back... but if I had no GPS or home point set it would of kept going... still never figured out the problem as a reboot of the Phantom fixed it.. so the Phantom isn't faulty nor is the RC TX as both have been fine for 100+ flights since..

paulsheaves said:
Looks like i have the same issue as a lot of you here:

When i fly the bird without video, no problems and enough satellites. Hit record on the app and all hell breaks loose GPS fails, and we're into the panic mode of trying to fly the bird without GPS etc etc.

Forgive me, for I am not an RC specialist like a lot of you guys no doubt are, but is is EXTREMELY hard to fly in non GPS mode in my opinion.

Furthermore, DJI designed this product so that the average user could fly it safely and have fun with it by selling a product that was easy to use.

I'm a little taken back that people have spent £1000+ on this product and yet seem to just accept this fault and try and mend it/modify it themselves, surely this is a classic example of a product fault and DJI should be fixing the problem and replacing those PV2+'s that have this problem?

You wouldn't try and build your own brakes if you were sold a car which had faulty brakes would you?! It would get recalled.

I personally don't feel comfortable opening up the drone, let alone buying some sort of sheeting that I know nothing about and somehow fitting it; is there an option out there for the likes of myself that don't feel it is acceptable for DJI to take £1000 of my money to give me a faulty product?!
 
Hey Mate

You find any where that sells this ? Was curious if you get it if you buy a new GPS module maybe ?
Don't really need the shielding, however if its like $10 or something reasonable I would not mind getting it to replace what I've got in place.

msinger said:
Does anyone know where to buy the copper shielding that DJI uses?
 

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