Unfortunately it was a very negative experience being on any of those forums, many posts that were sometimes interesting were just deleted , many first time flyers that post are not aware that the owner of the groups has no tolerance policy for any third party apps, or parts , and because of that you see a lot of "where did my posts go". The other things we found is that the owner of these groups rules with his own personal beliefs which is not what a group of phantom flyers should be about. We found that mosts posts go with zero response and the one that do get the most comments , are simply get taken down if they are taking away from his own personal posts. Most of those posts were those affiliate links.