The reason I asked is that I have flown just down the road from there on Black Star Canyon Road. I drove all the way down it (north, off of Santiago Canyon Road) to the end where the gate and parking lot are. From that point on, it's hiking-only. However, I flew from the parking lot after asking one of the Fire Rangers. He was a senior citizen wearing an official park uniform (probably a volunteer retiree). He said that he couldn't say "no", nor could he say, "yes". He then proceeded to suggest I launch from the other end of the parking lot. He was just as excited to see me fly as I was to fly.I was referring to the area in the "Irvine Lake 2" image that jCast had posted. That little gravel area I have flown from once before. I would love to go back but am afraid that someone might stop by and give me trouble. I am one of those paranoid flyers I guess.