My point was that if you can see it so can others, and busy bodies are more apt to report a 'UFO' buzzing around at night.
UFO's are a thing of the past...
now it's just drones...
My point was that if you can see it so can others, and busy bodies are more apt to report a 'UFO' buzzing around at night.
Nope, still around....UFO's are a thing of the past...
now it's just drones...
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Hey Bill..Ohh BillllWas that this year?
Then you don't know how FAA rules are made, do you? The current FAA rules do not differentiate from hobby aircraft or personal drones and there are no FAA rules against night flying.We are not operating model aircraft. We are operating unmanned aircraft. There is a big difference in the eyes of the FAA. I am a professional pilot with almost 10,000 hrs of flight time. I am also a certified flight instructor and am very familiar with the FAA rules and regulations, and the proposed regulations. I am in the process of registering my P3 with the FAA for commercial use. People not using common sense with unmanned aircraft are causing more rules and restrictions to be placed on us. One guy last his drone in a hot pool in Yellowstone last year--that led to us not being able to fly in National parks. Most regulations are reactive to things that people have done in the past.
Guidelines - not rules. There is no rule to violate.After reading the faa interpretation of LOS even a spotter does not count. Goggles are technically a violation as they block your unaided track on the vehicle. Seems like no matter what there is a rule that could get you busted.
ok, now guide me down the rabbit hole...Guidelines - not rules. There is no rule to violate.
It's a strange position they (FAA) find themselves in. They say they're aircraft when it comes to control of the airspace, but when some clod gets offended and destroys one, they (FAA) say it's a matter for the "local" authorities. Talking out both sides of their mouth. I'll be glad when they finalize the rules and there is no more bickering here about it!ok, now guide me down the rabbit hole...
If the FAA considers UAVs aircraft, then follows that when flying at night they must display position lights as required in F.A.R.s 91.209 and 27.1387. Am I wrong?
I didn't see any bickering in my post it's a discussion between adults. Don't have to read it.It's a strange position they (FAA) find themselves in. They say they're aircraft when it comes to control of the airspace, but when some clod gets offended and destroys one, they (FAA) say it's a matter for the "local" authorities. Talking out both sides of their mouth. I'll be glad when they finalize the rules and there is no more bickering here about it!
I meant bickering in a "general" sense, not your post in particular.I didn't see any bickering in my post it's a discussion between adults. Don't have to read it.
At any rate, the same discussions are, no doubt, ongoing at FAA HQ. As many of us have stated, the FAA is coming from behind attempting to get in front of the civilian UAV issue. They will sort it all out, in time. Also keep in mind the FAA is a pilot's agency, run by pilots, so expect any new rules to be drafted within that context. Of course, just my opinion, and I could be wrong.I meant bickering in a "general" sense, not your post in particular.
No, I believe you're right. Except that they will remain the same recommendations for us hobby and recreational flyers, with maybe some extra threats thrown in!At any rate, the same discussions are, no doubt, ongoing at FAA HQ. As many of us have stated, the FAA is coming from behind attempting to get in front of the civilian UAV issue. They will sort it all out, in time. Also keep in mind the FAA is a pilot's agency, run by pilots, so expect any new rules to be drafted within that context. Of course, just my opinion, and I could be wrong.
No. But the NTSB said that model aircraft were aircraft only for the enforcement of 91.13 Careless and Reckless. Position lights are required for certified aircraft, but the FAA has already said that these small UAS do not require airworthiness certification.ok, now guide me down the rabbit hole...
If the FAA considers UAVs aircraft, then follows that when flying at night they must display position lights as required in F.A.R.s 91.209 and 27.1387. Am I wrong?
But they make such a nasty splat on the windshield.No. But the NTSB said that model aircraft were aircraft only for the enforcement of 91.13 Careless and Reckless. Position lights are required for certified aircraft, but the FAA has already said that these small UAS do not require airworthiness certification.
It will be interesting to see what we get in the Part 107 rules as some of the commenters had something to say with a blanket "no night flight" rule. In my comment I said that night flight should be allowed if the UAS had position lights visible for at least three miles as seen from above. Same requirement for parachute flight at night.
14 CFR §105.19 Parachute operations between sunset and sunrise.I guess that a dark free-fall is OK?
(a) No person may conduct a parachute operation, and no pilot in command of an aircraft may allow a person to conduct a parachute operation from an aircraft between sunset and sunrise, unless the person or object descending from the aircraft displays a light that is visible for at least 3 statute miles.
(b) The light required by paragraph (a) of this section must be displayed from the time that the person or object is under a properly functioning open parachute until that person or object reaches the surface.
Agreed they are "guidelines" but it seems they have been going out of their way to scare folks into those guidelines. I was just throwing that out there as is seems that is the official interpretation of their guidelines. Also I could see these interpretations feeding into careless and reckless argument.Guidelines - not rules. There is no rule to violate.
I never said they weren't. I always encourage people to fly safely and when practical, fly the guidelines. And at all times follow the rules.Other than the my spotter interpretation the guidelines are pretty good standards for safe flying.
Funny, the majority of your posts I see are telling people there are no rules...I never said they weren't. I always encourage people to fly safely and when practical, fly the guidelines. And at all times follow the rules.
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