Atti mode is great. Just make sure the first time you do it, it's a not windy day and there are no obstiacles around.
Phantom 4 malfunction and loss
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Atti mode is great. Just make sure the first time you do it, it's a not windy day and there are no obstiacles around.
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Get a cheap drone and learn to fly that. Phantom will be cake after that.
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Its all quiet on the western front!
I think Ralph has had a good fish pie in this post by now so maybe he does not want to comment back until he has done his home work and knows more of what happened or where things went wrong. YES this may have been pilot error or other problem that might have been able to fix if acting fast when things go wrong.. he may not know how to find the logs or how to get the info from the app device..
But will not ask due to more face slapping.. It seems some people are willing to help you RALPH so you have to ignore the flack,
If all is quiet due to trying to get DJI to cough up, im sure they will be wise to if it was a malfunction or not as if the aircraft looses gps and also rc signal then it no longer is getting any commands unless this is the first drone hijacking we have seen
, i think it will also stop when rc signal is lost when performing a tap n fly or it should.
That leave 2 things for it to keep flying in any direction, ATTI mode with wind (run in the direction of it trying to regain RC connection) or bad IMU and it thinks it it level when it is not..
But the main reason for this reply in the post is.. People will help where they can and if their was a problem members would like to know what went wrong so it does not happen to others..
I think Ralph has had a good fish pie in this post by now so maybe he does not want to comment back until he has done his home work and knows more of what happened or where things went wrong. YES this may have been pilot error or other problem that might have been able to fix if acting fast when things go wrong.. he may not know how to find the logs or how to get the info from the app device..
But will not ask due to more face slapping.. It seems some people are willing to help you RALPH so you have to ignore the flack,
If all is quiet due to trying to get DJI to cough up, im sure they will be wise to if it was a malfunction or not as if the aircraft looses gps and also rc signal then it no longer is getting any commands unless this is the first drone hijacking we have seen
, i think it will also stop when rc signal is lost when performing a tap n fly or it should.That leave 2 things for it to keep flying in any direction, ATTI mode with wind (run in the direction of it trying to regain RC connection) or bad IMU and it thinks it it level when it is not..
But the main reason for this reply in the post is.. People will help where they can and if their was a problem members would like to know what went wrong so it does not happen to others..
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Have you contacted Apple to see what they intend to do about it? Unlike DJI, they are very pro-active in customer service and satisfaction.
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Switching to Atti mode now requires accepting a disclaimer before you can use it. Make sure you do so before you need it, so you can read and fully understand its implications!
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It's very easy to lose a Phantom and explain that it just flew away.
That makes it excusable as there's nothing you can do if your drone goes where it wants to.
It's not your fault ... it's DJI's.
Back in the P1 & P2 days you might have got away with it but since the P3, real flyaways are extremely rare.
The P3 was so good that even incidents mistakenly called flyaways were quite a bit less common than before.
We can examine flight records and find out what happened and often work out where to find the missing drone.
And the incident investigations often show that the drone did exactly what it was programmed to but the pilot didn't understand what the Phantom was doing.
Some common scenarios like flying away downwind in a strong wind or flying behind tall buildings account for many lost Phantoms.
I have my suspicions about Ralph's story but without data, no-one can learn anything from the incident.
It looks like he doesn't want any help to find the Phantom or learn what happened.
Perhaps he's happier just blaming DJI because everyone knows that their Phantoms just flyaway.
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it did not ask me anything and went in to Atti no problemSwitching to Atti mode now requires accepting a disclaimer before you can use it. Make sure you do so before you need it, so you can read and fully understand its implications!
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That's encouraging. I was just quoting from the P4 Disclaimer and Safety Guidelines included with the P4, which may not be accurate:
Flight Modes:
If you intend to switch to modes that disable GPS assistance (e.g., Atti mode), you are required to accept the prompted disclaimer to enable this function. If this function is enabled, you further understand and agree that data including but not limited to flight telemetry data and function records could be uploaded to and maintained on a DJI designated server.
Sounds like DJI doesn't trust us...
Or will just hand the data over to the FAA, the new "DJI designated server"...
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Interesting ... it could be that DJI don't trust all the warranty claims that come in but I'd be very surprised if they are telling the FAA every time you use atti mode or go to 500 feet above launch point.That's encouraging. I was just quoting from the P4 Disclaimer and Safety Guidelines included with the P4, which may not be accurate:
Sounds like DJI doesn't trust us...
Or will just hand the data over to the FAA, the new "DJI designated server"...
This thread needs to be removed unless he can provide some proof. Flight logs and a screen recording from the go app of the flight path with stick inputs. But I have a feeling we won't be hearing from him again I guess he just needed some attention.
Well you make a good point but even if Ralph is just BS'ing us, I have learned a lot about flying by reading this thread. Some insightful comments from some of the responders. The OP should at the very least acknowledge that he has stirred up a hornets nest and that he will post the logs or that he is not able to for any reason but to sit back and remain silent is bad..
The only thing which will help to avoid flyaway is to install Stop Flyaway. It's specifically designed to stop uncontrolled fly away. And it's P4 compatible.
Yeah I'm not really buying it either. Between this persons lack of posts / history on the forum. Lack of information on how they set up their Phantom after they unboxed the item. The duel GPS and Glonass system makes it very unlikely they would loose signal. And even if they did that wouldn't make them loose the ability to control the direction of the Phantom they would still be able to fly it on their own. With GPS off the Phantom would drift in the direction of the wind, and again that doesn't stop them from flying it. And if they don't know how to they shouldn't really be flying any distance away until they know how to. I'd call this loss user failure just as much as any possible GPS malfunction.
Proper IMI and GPS calibration is of the utmost importance and can make a real difference in the stability of flight of your Phantom and should be done before your initial flight as well as after any firmware updates. And some of the questions the user posted he should have already known the answers to if they already had any real experience with the P2 and P3.
In my opinion there is a good chance that this loss either 1) never happened or 2) was do to users lack of experience and proper set up. Granted tho it's within the realm of possibility it was a legit loss given the new product but I find it highly unlikely given the information presented thus far.
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It's probably impossible to find now but my guess is that with obstacle avoidance, depending on the speed and line of flight, it should have flown as long as the battery lasted and then auto landed. I'm sure it's lying on the ground somewhere in the general direction it was flying within 8 miles or so. Hopeful news but disheartening knowing it could definitely be sitting on the ground in perfect condition just waiting to be found.
Strange on my P3P F is the left position, Atti is center, P is right position.
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