30, I absolutely understand what you are saying, and if this is a firmware/software issue, then the answer to my original question is, it's DJI's problem. What I am questioning is if so many are flying fine with no issues even after the firmware updates, then where is the problem, with DJI or the pilots? You are correct, I am not in IT and I would venture to say that the majority of Phantom owners are not IT savvy either, but how can some Phantoms work so well and some not? I assume they are all running the same firmware, give or take an update and they should all be the same coming off the line the same, so that leads me to believe that most of the errors that we are reading about are pilot errors, don't you think? I'm not arguing one way or the other, just trying to understand and maybe even help folks to get their own Phantoms operating properly. It all boils down to, if the firmware is installed to the letter and the manual is read front to back and all the calibrations are done exactly as instructed, will I have a problem free Phantom?