GIVEAWAY: Phantom 4 (winner = lalvar40)

[adambfarmer]

Congrats lalvar 40


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[250Flyer]

Congrats to the winner!

And good luck trying out' or working on some these suggestions...

You're gonna need it.

 

[Tabbi]

First, i think that i can say thank you from everyone, that you are bringing such an awesome giveaway to us.

Second, here is my list, what i would like to see included in your guide:
- basic beginner tutorial (setting up the phantom, basic controls)
- operating the camera and the dji go app
- how to get smooth shots with the camera and an general film guide
- some tips and tricks that you and others have learned over the past
- how to maintain the phantom correctly
- p4 specific: the tab to fly mode

You could present all this in videos, pictures and some written text.

 

[flyNfrank]

Lets make a pool of 1400 members and contribute $1 each for flyNfrank

Wouldn't that be Biasing?

No biasing please.

 

[alokbhargava]

Contest is over so decision will not be biased any more

 

[flyNfrank]

Contest is over so decision will not be biased any more

You were just upset your entry wasn't getting any attention, isn't that right? lol!

 

[250Flyer]

Guys forget it and move on..

Comp is over, finished.

 

[jggraham]

With all due respect..........I don't think this would be difficult at all to achieve, higher education does not necessarily equate to higher intelligence or equal any sort of "expertise" in any given field. There are plenty of people who have gone through the school of "hard knocks" (hands on life experiences) who can be considered "experts". Based on my own experience on this forum alone.......achieving professional grade training videos etc. could be done with ease, of that I have no doubt whatsoever.



The word or title if you like "expert" is wide open for interpretation and vastly overused.........personally I don't believe there is any such person in any given field..........for certain there are those who specialize in a particular field of "expertise"..........who do become "specialists" in same. It is those who recognize the "specialists", surround themselves with them, identify their strengths and allows them the freedom to express same........they are the real experts of which there are many on this forum.



Please don't take this as any slight toward you or your friend, I mean zero disrespect toward your opinion or that of your friends education and/or employment position. I interpret your statement of "Now that would be someone's explanation or opinion I would trust"........IMO, this implies one needs higher education, title etc. in order to carry any weight or trust at all when it comes to input into anything that others may be interested in, require information on and/or training on. Higher education, title etc. does not necessarily equate to expertise in anything. As stated earlier there are many on this forum who can offer the same or even better "explanation or opinions" who don't have that same higher level of education, title etc.



Now this, I do agree on and very pleased to see you mentioned it ----- I also have experienced the same kind of assistance and advice on various subjects and as such this pretty well sums up what I was saying earlier. That quote or yours above does however seem to contradict a little of what you state in your post.

As mentioned - my response to your post is my own opinion, and is left here with all due to respect.

@eaglegoaltender I apologize if my post came off as you have taken it. I in no way meant to imply that one needs higher education to be an expert in something. I am a first generation college graduate. I also worked as an automotive mechanic for 6 years with many individuals that did not graduate high school but are some of the best mechanics I know.

The word expert means "a person who has a comprehensive and authoritative knowledge of or skill in a particular area" so yes I do believe experts exist in any given field and I believe this forum has many phantom experts. However just because I have a lot of friends that are very good medical doctors, and I surround myself with many of these very talented individuals and have very useful medical and scientific conversations with them, I in no way feel that I am an expert or "specialist" and would never ever give anyone real medical advice. I do think that someone does need some sort of credentials, whether it be higher education, job experience, or just plain street cred (or forum cred).

That being said my comments were just to say that yes there are many experts in this forum, but I think it would be useful to consult with other experts on narrow special topics. Obviously with normal trainings and informational videos these individuals would not be needed, that is not what I am suggesting. I am referring to unresolved or difficult to explain topics that were debated for a long time and some that still might be debated today. In those very controversial instances I do believe that someone, for example, who writes the code for and helps design systems very similar to this (and has for over 8 years at a very high level) might have a little insight to add to the wealth of knowledge in the forum. Those individuals I listed were not even an end all be all, they were just examples. If its a problem with software get some computer scientists to pick their brains. If its an electrical problem find some electrical engineers. If we are not sure whats causing the problem, talk to many different individuals in many different fields to try to get many different points of view, and try to come to a well informed, well rounded opinion. Also, while some might see it as a negative that some of these people might not have experience with Phantoms, in some instances I think it is good to get an outside unbiased point of view. However I agree the main source of information, help and opinions would come from, like it already does, within the forum. Does that help clarify what I meant, or do we just have to agree to disagree? I do not want to get into a long drawn out debate.

Again I apologize if I offended you or anyone else in any way. That was not my intention. If I did not trust the opinions and advice in this forum I would not come and read up on everything. But I do trust the advice and opinions and have been helped greatly and I am very appreciative for that help and will continue to come back.

 

[TheLightSpeedz]

You seriously don't think my mention of continuing a contest is me saying nobody wants to enter into one, do you?
I knew there was a good reason you never mentioned my entry. You must really think I'm stupid.

I realize people can't read minds, but my chatter about a contest consist of joining in and getting involved as group. The group then recruits the product sponsor. The group then forms a team that works together on what type of contest they can agree on. ------ At any rate, it generally takes at least one person to put forth enough effort to stay interested long enough until others come to the rescue and help. So if everyone just wants to hold their hand out and attempt to claim prizes, then I suppose there wont be any contest taking place.

Dude chill out. You realize you look like a sore loser in all this. Stop posting. @msinger gave it away, and the guy that got it deserves it! Why? Because @msinger said so!

Stop posting and go earn enough to go get one! Mine got stolen and I figured a way to get one!


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[eaglegoaltender]

jggraham, no need for apologies, no offence was taken from your initial post, only a matter of "points of view" and "difference of opinions". Your response is very well written, easily understood and absorbed.

I do think that someone does need some sort of credentials, whether it be higher education, job experience, or just plain street cred (or forum cred).

I agree with your statement here, especially this part........"job experience, or just plain street cred (or forum cred)" you did acknowledge this basically in your original post anyway. I agree also there are many in this forum who fit that bill for building a great training program etc.

The word expert means "a person who has a comprehensive and authoritative knowledge of or skill in a particular area"

Hmmm.......this is where I don't necessarily believe the "title" suits the definition and the "title" is just far too over used. IMO that defines a "specialist", someone who specializes in a given field and attains that "authoritative knowledge and skill in one particular area of that chosen field" to the point they are considered a "specialist" not an "expert". IMO an "expert" would be someone who knows and applies 100% of each and every detail there is to know about his/her chosen field and that is just not possible.

Probably just me but I just don't like the title "expert:" - LOL.

However just because I have a lot of friends that are very good medical doctors, and I surround myself with many of these very talented individuals and have very useful medical and scientific conversations with them, I in no way feel that I am an expert or "specialist" and would never ever give anyone real medical advice.

Excellent choice of friends....you surround yourself with intelligence and higher educated people, IMO this makes you an "expert" in that have you the ability to recognize brilliance, and with regard to the fact you can converse with same! This is where I think that title "expert" might just fit, as to having that natural ability with regard to recognition and ability to join in discussions.

Does that help clarify what I meant, or do we just have to agree to disagree? I do not want to get into a long drawn out debate.

This is a "healthy discussion" and I thank you for responding to my post and your points are well taken, understood and well clarified. If there is anything we 'agree to disagree" on...it is the use of the term/title "expert" (even doctors attain the title of "specialist" not "expert" and as such are considered to be one who has reached the pinnacle of that particular field of medicine).

LOL, I am not on board for any long drawn out debate either, but am enjoying this one.....this is also one of the great things about this forum, how one post can spawn into great discussions.

One of the commonalities you and I share here ........there is plenty of knowledge and ability on this great forum......further to that, I do agree with you that seeking out other avenues of professionalism in whatever field they are considered "specialists" can only help with regard to a top notch training program.

 

[alokbhargava]

You were just upset your entry wasn't getting any attention, isn't that right? lol!

No, you are not right. I had no idea what msinger was thinking and his shortlist was not yet out. Why are you trying to make 2+2=5?

flyNfrank, interesting to know how much you care for words like "upset", "attention", .........

I spend most of my extra funds to support education / food/ living for three poor kids in other country, organize social events and charities....give 4 hrs daily to this forum haha. If time is left, I relax with my hobbies.

 

[alokbhargava]

I request moderators to close this thread.

 

[250Flyer]

I request moderators to close this thread.

Me too..

 

[eaglegoaltender]

I request moderators to close this thread.

Good idea and overdue........

 

[eaglegoaltender]

I spend most of my extra funds to support education / food/ living for three poor kids in other country, organize social events and charities....give 4 hrs daily to this forum haha. If time is left, I relax with my hobbies.

Wow - nice to read that kind of post - good on you sir!

 

[Peter Chronowski]

I think you should talk about how to use gopros with drones with the most efficiency. As in how to set up and the best 3-axis gimbal.

 

[Francisco Solis]

Hi this is Francisco. A proper aerial videography class should have 3 main principles which can be divided into segments. Flying, recording/photography, and post production. Flying should be first when learning how to use a drone. In the flying segment you should teach your students the basic principles of flying including the rules and state laws. If they are complete beginners starting with smaller cheaper drones might be wise. Once your students are comfortable flying the drone then you can move into the video recording and picture taking part. Learning how to maneuver the drone while keeping the object of interest in the shot. In this segment you can also teach how to use a camera; exposure and aperture settings...etc. Lastly the post production would be the last thing to teach your students. Turning a RAW video file into a masterpiece is no small feat, and might be thwarting to beginners. In Summary teaching a drone flying class may be difficult, but I believe that when you put yourself to the task you can accomplish anything.

I cant wait to see how your class turns out!
Thank you and best of luck!