Camera settings

I'm a newbie - 1st successful solo flight today. My problem is with camera settings: in "advanced mode" ("3 lines"), the remote controller dial seems to be random and not selective on setting the individual ISO/shutter/EV values, and these do not transfer to the actual displayed camera setting values, such that the advanced settings menu needs to be displayed on the screen to be in effect (and therefore obscure controls). I have seen reference to "auto" and "manual" - what are these? (the user manual sucks for the app - I have Android).
 
Please see my previous post (the big one) - while it was written using the iOS version, I suspect it should not be much different from Android.
 
I'm a newbie - 1st successful solo flight today. My problem is with camera settings: in "advanced mode" ("3 lines"), the remote controller dial seems to be random and not selective on setting the individual ISO/shutter/EV values, and these do not transfer to the actual displayed camera setting values, such that the advanced settings menu needs to be displayed on the screen to be in effect (and therefore obscure controls). I have seen reference to "auto" and "manual" - what are these? (the user manual sucks for the app - I have Android).

Hi Tom & welcome, just read through this thread from the start and all should become clear..ish.
 
great comments. On setting EV mine says its +0.3 I have the ISO set to P. I dont ever remember adjusted the EV...so is +0.3 pretty standard? thanks!
 
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thats one of the manual setting shoot
 
I'll try here to distill all the "controls" and "indicators" for the camera:

A] Right-hand side, bottom icon - three horizontal lines with one dot each:
Grey - AE mode (Auto Exposure)
Blue - Manual mode

B] When in AE mode:

1) The upper-right bar displays the settings the camera has set itself for, for the selected area of the screen. Which area is selected depends. You can tap a point on the screen (not too close to the edge) and a yellow box will pop up. The AE setting will be chosen for what the camera sees in that box. Tap a different area and you get new settings (if the camera thinks it needs to be changed). Tap the small 'x' at the upper right corner of the yellow box and you will see yellow targeting brackets appear for a second at the center of the screen. The camera has re-set itself to choose the AE settings for that center section of the screen.

2) Rotating the right side wheel will adjust the EV setting (you will notice it is blue). As you adjust the EV, the camera adjusts (automatically) the ISO and shutter speed to what it thinks is the best combination to achieve that EV value.

3) Pressing the wheel (it is also a button) seems to do nothing, other than beep. If anyone knows if it does anything else while in AE mode, please chime in (pun intended).

4) While still in AE mode, if you tap the (now grey) AE-lock icon at the right of the camera settings bar, it will lock the AE setting to what the camera had selected for the targeted area of the screen. Now, if you move the camera (whether through gimbal controls or the drone, or something else with the subject changes) the settings do not change. If you rotate the dial, the AE becomes unlocked again.

C] When in Manual mode:

1) Pop-out window on left shows ISO, Shutter speed, and EV.

2) Pressing the wheel as a button toggles control of ISO and Shutter. If the ISO number is blue, then ISO is selected. If ISO is white, the Shutter is selected. (Would have been mildly clever of DJI if they had made the Shutter number in the left window blue when shutter is selected.) The upper right camera bar shows the same values, with the selected value being blue. EV cannot be selected - it's display is just for reference, and may change as ISO and Shutter are adjusted.

3) To keep the selected Manual settings, you can swipe the pop-out window left. It will show a lock at the edge of the screen to show that the settings are locked. Rotating the wheel will still adjust the selected setting. Pressing the wheel will still toggle the selected setting.

D] Upper right camera bar also displays (depending on whether Still or Video mode) the estimated number of stills that can be saved to the SD card (depending on its free space) and the file format selected. For Video it is the estimated length of video possible, and resolution.

E] If you "hold" your finger on the screen you will get a blue circle around your finger. As you drag the circle it will move the camera (and therefore the AE selected area if you are in AE mode.) While dragging a white dot will remain on the screen so that you will know the physical location on the screen where you started dragging from. It acts like a joystick toggle - the farther from the white dot you are, the faster the camera moves.

F] While in Still mode, you will notice a four-sectioned circle around that button. If you press and hold the on-screen shutter button, the four sections will sequentially turn blue - that is the count-down to get to more Still-shot options. A half-wheel selection-thingy (I don't know whachyacallit) appears with five option. Tapping any of them selects the option for what happens when you press the shutter button (either on the screen or the controller itself).

1) Single shot. self-explanatory (I hope).

2) HDR shot. I don't know crap about digital photography, and have forgotten nearly everything I used to know about old-school photo. Recommendations for a good, concise, webpage on this would be greatly appreciated. (edit: OK, I have since found out what HDR is. I have no idea what method this camera/app uses.)

3) Burst Mode. Brings up another section bar for you to choose how many shots. 3, 5 or 7. Note that it can take a few seconds for it to save all the shots to the card before you can hit the shutter again.

4) AEB - (Auto Exposure Bracketing - ?) Brings up another menu for selecting 3 or 5 shots. I *think* this does a burst with each shot being at a different exposure setting, so that you can stitch sections of different shots together to get a *fixed* single shot (using picture-editing software). See F2 above.

5) Timed shot. This is time-lapse. Brings up another selection bar for you to choose the shot interval: 1 shot taken every 5, 7, 10, 20 or 30 seconds. Depending on your chosen Still format (JPEG, RAW or both, Resolution, and other things may make a difference too - I don't know) some of the faster intervals may be greyed-out and not selectable. It will keep taking shots until you press the shutter button again.

6) After you have selected the Shutter mode you want, press the center of the semi-circle and it will set the shutter. The shutter button will indicate the mode selected.


If I've forgotten or missed anything, please feel free to fill in the blanks. Or correct me where I'm wrong. Please remember F2 and F4 (above.)

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I'm not sure if this was answered as I didn't finish reading the entire section. But you said in number 3 above; 3) Pressing the wheel (it is also a button) seems to do nothing, other than beep. If anyone knows if it does anything else while in AE mode, please chime in (pun intended).

I was playing around and found that... While in manual mode, if you press the right button, it switches between ISO and Shudder turning each blue that is active which in turn can be then changed by turning the button. You helped me immensely with your write up. Thanks.
 
I have been mucking about with the ISO and shutter speed settings for night photography. It is tricky to get right and I generally take a few shots on different settings to compare later. It is quite hard to tell at the time how it came out. Higher ISO means lower shutter speed required (which means it is generally sharper) but if it is really calm and you can do a long exposure on 100 ISO then you are going to have a very smooth looking shot with less 'noise'.

I managed this shot last night after lots of attempts to get it right.

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Cool shot...how long exposure?
 
The issue at this point is not getting into Auto. I believe I am, since there is no lock icon at left (and the AE is blue). The issue is that, once in Auto, clicking the right wheel shows the three camera settings at left (ISO/Shutter/AE) but only toggles between the first two. I have not figured out how to alter the AE in Auto.
The exposure value (EV) in auto is adjusted with the wheel when you have the menu closed and viewing the live feed. You'll notice there are shutter and iso settings just above the middle of the screen. If you roll the wheel in either direction then you should see a EV slider either increase or decrease bars.
This is just from memory and I've had the drone a week. In manual mode, rolling the wheel will typically just increase/decrease the shutter speed which in essence is changing the EV.
 
EV is a dynamic value that can't be calculated until power on. It displays +/- increments of 0.3 from neutral so it would be greyed out if it had a button before go time anyway. Probably why it only lets you directly change the other values and the reference of EV.
 

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