Video: Fitted my Phantom v1 into a Phantom 2 shell (easy!)

[ElGuano]

Re: Video: Fitted my Phantom v1 into a Phantom 2 shell (easy

what create ways have you guys found to mount the LED?

I read that someone just installed everything 'backwards'? anything to be concerned about using this method? It'd save from having to extend the LED cable, which would be nice.

extending the led is pretty easy as far as soldering/modding goes. If you install backwards you'll have to deal with repositioning the naza and will likely end up needing to extend some other cable else anyways. I did this whole exercise with the p1 shell.

 

[EMCSQUAR]

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what create ways have you guys found to mount the LED?

I read that someone just installed everything 'backwards'? anything to be concerned about using this method? It'd save from having to extend the LED cable, which would be nice.

On the P1 turning the board around makes accessing power lead to correct side for P2 battery connect easier. Just make sure motors, esc's, and NAZA remain in forward facing direction and NAZA is centered.

RE: LED - go back earlier to Deweys' post on DJI add on LED - you can literally mount it anywhere.

 

[OI Photography]

Re: Video: Fitted my Phantom v1 into a Phantom 2 shell (easy

what create ways have you guys found to mount the LED?

I read that someone just installed everything 'backwards'? anything to be concerned about using this method? It'd save from having to extend the LED cable, which would be nice.

On the P1 turning the board around makes accessing power lead to correct side for P2 battery connect easier. Just make sure motors, esc's, and NAZA remain in forward facing direction and NAZA is centered.

I scrapped that idea because the little X1 and EXP leads from the board wouldn't reach the NAZA ports without extending them...so I just spliced a longer batt lead to reach around to the other side. More weight, but less effort.

 

[EMCSQUAR]

Re: Video: Fitted my Phantom v1 into a Phantom 2 shell (easy

what create ways have you guys found to mount the LED?

I read that someone just installed everything 'backwards'? anything to be concerned about using this method? It'd save from having to extend the LED cable, which would be nice.

On the P1 turning the board around makes accessing power lead to correct side for P2 battery connect easier. Just make sure motors, esc's, and NAZA remain in forward facing direction and NAZA is centered.

I scrapped that idea because the little X1 and EXP leads from the board wouldn't reach the NAZA ports without extending them...so I just spliced a longer batt lead to reach around to the other side. More weight, but less effort.

I did as you did until I added 2.4 ground station & can hub - then I needed every sq centimeter. And before ElG chimes in about weight... I did a bunch of weight reduction and w/P2 battery it comes in just under 1500gs.

 

[ElGuano]

Re: Video: Fitted my Phantom v1 into a Phantom 2 shell (easy

what create ways have you guys found to mount the LED?

I read that someone just installed everything 'backwards'? anything to be concerned about using this method? It'd save from having to extend the LED cable, which would be nice.

On the P1 turning the board around makes accessing power lead to correct side for P2 battery connect easier. Just make sure motors, esc's, and NAZA remain in forward facing direction and NAZA is centered.

I scrapped that idea because the little X1 and EXP leads from the board wouldn't reach the NAZA ports without extending them...so I just spliced a longer batt lead to reach around to the other side. More weight, but less effort.

I did as you did until I added 2.4 ground station & can hub - then I needed every sq centimeter. And before ElG chimes in about weight... I did a bunch of weight reduction and w/P2 battery it comes in just under 1500gs.

My schtick is too predictable.

 

[OI Photography]

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My schtick is too predictable.

That won't look good on a resume. Try "My positive influence is pervasive"

 

[OI Photography]

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Q: If I'm not using the Zenmuse, is it absolute necessary to loop the GPS feed through the upgrade board? Or can I just connect it straight to the NAZA and lose the lead from the board?

 

[EMCSQUAR]

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Q: If I'm not using the Zenmuse, is it absolute necessary to loop the GPS feed through the upgrade board? Or can I just connect it straight to the NAZA and lose the lead from the board?

I would think you could plug it directly into the NAZA.

 

[OI Photography]

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Q: If I'm not using the Zenmuse, is it absolute necessary to loop the GPS feed through the upgrade board? Or can I just connect it straight to the NAZA and lose the lead from the board?

I would think you could plug it directly into the NAZA.

Yeah, and I'm pretty sure the NAZA would function just fine, I was just wondering if there's any other purpose to going through the board than just supporting the GCU. I think I can neaten up my wiring run just a bit if I can connect the Flytrex cable straight to the NAZA instead without giving up any auxiliary functionality.

 

[ElGuano]

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Q: If I'm not using the Zenmuse, is it absolute necessary to loop the GPS feed through the upgrade board? Or can I just connect it straight to the NAZA and lose the lead from the board?

I would think you could plug it directly into the NAZA.

Yeah, and I'm pretty sure the NAZA would function just fine, I was just wondering if there's any other purpose to going through the board than just supporting the GCU. I think I can neaten up my wiring run just a bit if I can connect the Flytrex cable straight to the NAZA instead without giving up any auxiliary functionality.

The main purpose of the upgrade board is CANBus support (the GCU must communicate via CANBus). The NAZA reads asnd writes CAN through the EXP port. So you COULD bypass the upgrade board and plug the GPS directly to the NAZA, as you do with the stock mainboard. But then why do you have an upgrade board? If you have an iOSD mini or OSD Mk2 or BTU or CAN hub or GCU connected, none of those peripherals will then work.

The Flytrex afaik doesn't speak CAN, so it has to plug in between the GPS and the upgrade board (or NAZA).

 

[EMCSQUAR]

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ELG - correct me if I'm wrong - isn't the basic board nothing but a power distribution set up? It dawned on me yesterday when building Kong 450 - little puck size board to handle up to 10 power outlets (ESCs, PMU,..) If the above is true, why when adding all the perifials to a phantom do we keep the boards? I could make a strip to support NAZA then put two points one(+) & (-) as a power source and have a ton of room for managing IOSD, PMU,BTU...

 

[ElGuano]

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ELG - correct me if I'm wrong - isn't the basic board nothing but a power distribution set up? It dawned on me yesterday when building Kong 450 - little puck size board to handle up to 10 power outlets (ESCs, PMU,..) If the above is true, why when adding all the perifials to a phantom do we keep the boards? I could make a strip to support NAZA then put two points one(+) & (-) as a power source and have a ton of room for managing IOSD, PMU,BTU...

The stock board is ALMOST just a PDB. But X3 has a signal pin, which tells the NAZA (at the very least) what the unregulated voltage is for the low voltage alarm. Without that, all the NAZA would see is constant 5v from the voltage regulator. With a PMU V2, the main board becomes nothing more than a PDB to provide power to the ESCs/motors.

OI asked specifically about the upgrade board, which because of its use of CANbus, does some weird thing where it takes the GPS signal and re-processes it in CAN frames.

I actually have a stock board + PMU V2. That means technically, my mainboard COULD just be a PDB. I chose to cut the X3 wires off the PMU and continue to power the NAZA through my mainboard, but the main reason I didn't remove the board completely is because the board itself is way lighter than a web of 16-14AWG cabling with huge solder globs spidering from the battery terminals.

 

[EMCSQUAR]

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ELG - correct me if I'm wrong - isn't the basic board nothing but a power distribution set up? It dawned on me yesterday when building Kong 450 - little puck size board to handle up to 10 power outlets (ESCs, PMU,..) If the above is true, why when adding all the perifials to a phantom do we keep the boards? I could make a strip to support NAZA then put two points one(+) & (-) as a power source and have a ton of room for managing IOSD, PMU,BTU...

The stock board is ALMOST just a PDB. But X3 has a signal pin, which tells the NAZA (at the very least) what the unregulated voltage is for the low voltage alarm. Without that, all the NAZA would see is constant 5v from the voltage regulator. With a PMU V2, the main board becomes nothing more than a PDB to provide power to the ESCs/motors.

OI asked specifically about the upgrade board, which because of its use of CANbus, does some weird thing where it takes the GPS signal and re-processes it in CAN frames.

I actually have a stock board + PMU V2. That means technically, my mainboard COULD just be a PDB. I chose to cut the X3 wires off the PMU and continue to power the NAZA through my mainboard, but the main reason I didn't remove the board completely is because the board itself is way lighter than a web of 16-14AWG cabling with huge solder globs spidering from the battery terminals.

Thanks for the reply. Yea I figured the upgrade board had some voodoo going on ... But I might just try the support the naza plate and use single source power distribution, might even build it into the lid.

I can't believe you of all people would have HUGE SOLDER GLOBS - I figured you for a Chuck Norris electrical guy - fuse wires by staring at them.

 

[ElGuano]

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Thanks for the reply. Yea I figured the upgrade board had some voodoo going on ... But I might just try the support the naza plate and use single source power distribution, might even build it into the lid.

I can't believe you of all people would have HUGE SOLDER GLOBS - I figured you for a Chuck Norris electrical guy - fuse wires by staring at them.

Spot welding is where it's at Not so good for stranded wire though.

I don't recall if I've posted any of my mainboard experiments. Cut out some deadweight, physically supports the NAZA, still functions as PDB. 9 grams less (and way less than stringing four cables directly to the ESCs from the battery).

 

[EMCSQUAR]

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Nice! I can see DJI watching this thread taking notes.... "we watch our fine American friends test our stuff"

 

[ElGuano]

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Nice! I can see DJI watching this thread taking notes.... "we watch our fine American friends test our stuff"

They have my picture up in the LA service center. "If this person calls about a problem with his Phantom and tries to blame us for it, laugh into the phone for 2 minutes, and then hang up."

 

[EMCSQUAR]

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Now that's funny.... Speaking of LA office - I had great service from them regarding a bad Zenmuse. Alex is the contact & he is awesome! I was actually shocked that he called me (yes that's not a typo) to give me status report and apologized for not getting to me sooner. I almost fell over backwards. I was prepared to get into some long winding debacle and instead they blindsided me with a left upper NICE! 2 thumbs up for DJI LA. (even if they hang up on you)

 

[OI Photography]

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But then why do you have an upgrade board?

I thought that's what all the cool kids were using now?

Yeah I wasn't thinking about the canbus needing the exp connection. Derp.

 

[ElGuano]

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Now that's funny.... Speaking of LA office - I had great service from them regarding a bad Zenmuse. Alex is the contact & he is awesome! I was actually shocked that he called me (yes that's not a typo) to give me status report and apologized for not getting to me sooner. I almost fell over backwards. I was prepared to get into some long winding debacle and instead they blindsided me with a left upper NICE! 2 thumbs up for DJI LA. (even if they hang up on you)

I saw that, that's really good news IMO, I think it means they're taking customer support seriously.

Btw, I have NEVER, in my life, gotten a call back when a rep says they'll call me back in x minutes/hours/days. Ever. Even from companies with great customer service like Amazon or Apple. I basically just take it to mean I'll call them again in x+1 minutes/hours/days and re-explain the problem from scratch to a new rep.

So that's definitely a positive sign

 

[PJA]

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Tonight I decided to create a Can-Bus Port on the outside of my Phantom. I didn't want to seal my iOSD mini under the Phantom shell in-case I wanted to use it on my f550... So, I followed Dewey's, gen3benz, OI Photography and the Sarawuth site's instructions...

What I ask is for my P1.5 Conversion Friends to check out my work and see if I got it right... I'm concerned about the wire positions and if I got the order correct... I went over it so many times, but I don't have a way to test it right now... :|

I used Jumper Wire cables to create the four wire set-up:

The first picture shows how I used masking tape to protect the areas around the soldering points. The second picture shows the completed soldering job. I used the Red Wire as the RV (Regulated Voltage),The Brown Wire for Ground, the Orange Wire for the CH pin and the Yellow Wire for the CL pin... The third picture shows the hot glue I put on it for protection, and I wrapped the wire with shrink wrap...

I slipped the wire through a leg port and plugged the Jumper Plug Male end to the iOSD mini plug for alignment... This is what I hope I got right... I set the pins in the order you see in the picture: CL, CH, GROUND, RV... Note: the way the iOSD mini plug is facing... I have the DJI logo side facing the camera for the order of the pins. I hope they are in the correct slots in the DJI plug...

The second photo shows how I kept the Jumper Pins together. I used Industrial Two Sided Tape and put a piece on each side. I had black electrical tape holding them together until I thought of this idea. :idea: I slipped a very tight shrink wrap around the tape and pins and heated for a tighter fit...

This is what the final Can-Bus Port looks like... There's a kink under the shrink wrap because one wire was slightly longer than the rest. I didn't pull all the wires apart so in between the bottom shrink wrap and the shrink wrap under the shell, the wire is neat and straight...

Please let me know, guys, if I did it correctly... I hope so... :? :?: