Ultimate Flight (Android)-waypoint + save/load RELEASED!

[kenargo]

Re: New app for Vision and Vision+ - Ultimate Flight for And

1.26 published to release branch

* Mode changes spoken immediately
* Random app shutdown when speech turned off

1.28 published to pre-release branches

* Editing waypoints disabled once missions starts
* Mission buttons updated based on flight mode (untested if the correct buttons show but only affects pause and continue buttons)
* Follow-me and joystick disabled while I finish waypoints
* Mode changes spoken immediately
* Random app shutdown when speech turned off

 

[TuT]

Re: New app for Vision and Vision+ - Ultimate Flight for And

Purchased app today. Unfortunately having some issues.

1: Cannot find the settings menu.

2: App crashes shortly after connecting to Phantom.

Would appreciate any help.
Cheers

 

[kenargo]

Re: New app for Vision and Vision+ - Ultimate Flight for And

Purchased app today. Unfortunately having some issues.

1: Cannot find the settings menu.

2: App crashes shortly after connecting to Phantom.

Would appreciate any help.
Cheers

Settings menu is in the main screen (top right corner, 3 vertical dots unless you have a hardware menu button in which case use that).

What is the version of firmware and Android device type? The SDK requires firmware 3.04 or greater and there are devices that are known not to play well with the SDK (Samsung 3G is one that is problematic and DJI is investigating).

If you allowed Google to upload the app shutdown information I'll have it by tomorrow and can investigate and fix if it is something within my ability to fix or give you an answer to the investigation.

Some people have found things to be more stable to connect the Phantom before opening the app or to connect to the Phantom from the main screen before opening the flight screen; just a suggestion but it seams that sometimes the SDK doesn't like when things are connected after it is initialized (which happens in the flight screen in my app). I've also hard of cases where it might crash on 1 run and work the next. I know what these are; there is a library that DJI uses for decoding the live stream and it can die randomly; they are looking into that as we speak.

Let me know if you find anything out and I'll keep an eye out for your stack upload.

As always, if you don't want to wait for investigations and the possibility that it might need a fix from DJI to correct the issue a refund is only an email away, just let me know.

 

[djsydvicious]

Re: New app for Vision and Vision+ - Ultimate Flight for And

Purchased app today. Unfortunately having some issues.

1: Cannot find the settings menu.

2: App crashes shortly after connecting to Phantom.

Would appreciate any help.
Cheers

The answer to your first question... When you open the app, in the upper right hand corner... Click on the 3 dots stacked in each other. You should see SETTINGS. CLICK on it. No stacked 3 dots? Perhaps you have a tablet/phone with a button at bottom that will take you to Settings.

 

[TuT]

Re: New app for Vision and Vision+ - Ultimate Flight for And

Ok, I found the settings, thanks.
App running much better now I've enabled Zenmuse mode in advanced settings.

I'll let you know how the first flight goes

 

[kenargo]

Re: New app for Vision and Vision+ - Ultimate Flight for And

Ok, I found the settings, thanks.
App running much better now I've enabled Zenmuse mode in advanced settings.

I'll let you know how the first flight goes

Ah, yes, if you are running with a Zenmuse configuration you want to enable the Zenmuse mode; I don't have one but the person that helped with the details and testing says it works very nice so I'm interested in hearing from others who use Zenmuse.

Please send your feedback.

I wish I had one to test with then I'd be able to figure out the code that causes the app to shutdown and use that information to ask the user if they want to enable Zenmuse but until I invest in one (or find someone close) I'm at a loss to make it automatic.

In any case, I'm glad it's working for you!

 

[rbhamilton]

Re: New app for Vision and Vision+ - Ultimate Flight for And

Limits are configurable: Settings->Flight Control->Ground Station Flight Defaults and Limits . You can increase them, decrease then or turn them off completely.

Thanks! That was easy. I should have looked for that first.

 

[kenargo]

Re: New app for Vision and Vision+ - Ultimate Flight for And

1.29 Pre-release update
Waypoint copy settings checkbox
Flight log uses mission name for filename root and flight entry description
Log include start and end location
Pause/continue buttons onscreen
Tweaking of flight track information
Blue outer circle indicates battery flight limit (smart battery)

 

[Bigdz]

Re: New app for Vision and Vision+ - Ultimate Flight for And

1.29 Pre-release update
Waypoint copy settings checkbox
Flight log uses mission name for filename root and flight entry description
Log include start and end location
Pause/continue buttons onscreen
Tweaking of flight track information
Blue outer circle indicates battery flight limit (smart battery)

IS UF flight log compatible with dashware software?

 

[kenargo]

Re: New app for Vision and Vision+ - Ultimate Flight for And

1.29 Pre-release update
Waypoint copy settings checkbox
Flight log uses mission name for filename root and flight entry description
Log include start and end location
Pause/continue buttons onscreen
Tweaking of flight track information
Blue outer circle indicates battery flight limit (smart battery)

IS UF flight log compatible with dashboard software?

Compatible, yes but there is no profile created that will work with DashWare out of the box. I'm investigating the best way to support DashWare while allowing the maximum leverage of existing gages but that work has not been completed in the current version and you would need to create your own profile at this time.

 

[offthefront]

Re: New app for Vision and Vision+ - Ultimate Flight for And

Ken ..... when loading a saved mission the route adds two waypoints ... beginning and end (home point) .... shows Altitude as "0" ? Mission shows WP #1 #2 #3 Altitude was 50M ... but then the two added waypoints at the beginning and end with 0 alt .... I was worried that flight from #3 to Home would try to drop to zero? .... thanks ....mike .....


1.29

 

[kenargo]

Re: New app for Vision and Vision+ - Ultimate Flight for And

Ken ..... when loading a saved mission the route adds two waypoints ... beginning and end (home point) .... shows Altitude as "0" ? Mission shows WP #1 #2 #3 Altitude was 50M ... but then the two added waypoints at the beginning and end with 0 alt .... I was worried that flight from #3 to Home would try to drop to zero? .... thanks ....mike .....


1.29

Good point; the waypoints you mention are not added to the mission they are internal to the app and used to indicate the Phantom location at the start of the mission and home location or the end of the mission. I show 0 to indicate the ground but that is a bit misleading I guess.

Would you like to suggest an alternative? I could 'hide' the information and just have them as labels (e.g., Phantom and Home)?

I'm actually considering removing the last waypoint (the one for home) because the app doesn't use a waypoint for home location; as the pilot you are expected to place the last waypoint where you want the Phantom to end the mission.

The start, I guess should use current Phantom location and altitude; just in case you are starting the mission in the middle of flight (which is supported).

 

[djsydvicious]

Re: New app for Vision and Vision+ - Ultimate Flight for And

I'm seeing lag when taking pictures. Sometimes, the camera icon will lighten when taking a picture and then stay there for a while. Sometimes, it will eventually return. Also, there is lag in the animation of the video icon rotating to show the the movement of the camera angle using the the tilt switch on the transmitter

 

[kenargo]

Re: New app for Vision and Vision+ - Ultimate Flight for And

I'm seeing lag when taking pictures. Sometimes, the camera icon will lighten when taking a picture and then stay there for a while. Sometimes, it will eventually return. Also, there is lag in the animation of the video icon rotating to show the the movement of the camera angle using the the tilt switch on the transmitter

The lag you experience is the lag in the communications like between the Phantom and the device. The app uses the active feedback from the Phantom to control state of the visual elements. For example, rather than turning on the video icon then you press the video button the icon turns on when it receives confirmation from the Phantom that video recording is actually on. Same for the camera angle; the angle shown in the icon is a result of receiving angle information from the Phantom. While is would be possible to make some changes to make the lag less (for example, the app could turn the video icon ON when the button is presses rather than when the Phantom confirms video is on) that could lead to more confusion if the Phantom doesn't really turn on video as that would result in the icon flashing. The camera direction icon really needs the Phantom to report the location of the gimbal in order to be accurate since it will update if you use the controller or app.

 

[djsydvicious]

Re: New app for Vision and Vision+ - Ultimate Flight for And

I'm seeing lag when taking pictures. Sometimes, the camera icon will lighten when taking a picture and then stay there for a while. Sometimes, it will eventually return. Also, there is lag in the animation of the video icon rotating to show the the movement of the camera angle using the the tilt switch on the transmitter

The lag you experience is the lag in the communications like between the Phantom and the device. The app uses the active feedback from the Phantom to control state of the visual elements. For example, rather than turning on the video icon then you press the video button the icon turns on when it receives confirmation from the Phantom that video recording is actually on. Same for the camera angle; the angle shown in the icon is a result of receiving angle information from the Phantom. While is would be possible to make some changes to make the lag less (for example, the app could turn the video icon ON when the button is presses rather than when the Phantom confirms video is on) that could lead to more confusion if the Phantom doesn't really turn on video as that would result in the icon flashing. The camera direction icon really needs the Phantom to report the location of the gimbal in order to be accurate since it will update if you use the controller or app.

Makes sense to me. Thanks.

 

[AmosMoses]

Re: New app for Vision and Vision+ - Ultimate Flight for And

Ken ..... when loading a saved mission the route adds two waypoints ... beginning and end (home point) .... shows Altitude as "0" ? Mission shows WP #1 #2 #3 Altitude was 50M ... but then the two added waypoints at the beginning and end with 0 alt .... I was worried that flight from #3 to Home would try to drop to zero? .... thanks ....mike .....


1.29

This was something I noticed and was concerned about. I personally would prefer that if the information isn't relevant to the mission it just be hidden. jmho.

Is there a way to turn on the "battery limit" ring? I'm using a P2V+ V3 with the V2.0 smart battery and I'm not seeing the limit ring. Any ideas?

Also, when setting up a mission, will the Phantom return to it's home point when it finishes the mission like the dji app? Or should a way point be set close to the home point to end the mission?
I haven't been able to actually put the bird in the air to test anything (weather) but have been messing around with things indoors.
Thanks.

 

[kenargo]

Re: New app for Vision and Vision+ - Ultimate Flight for And

Ken ..... when loading a saved mission the route adds two waypoints ... beginning and end (home point) .... shows Altitude as "0" ? Mission shows WP #1 #2 #3 Altitude was 50M ... but then the two added waypoints at the beginning and end with 0 alt .... I was worried that flight from #3 to Home would try to drop to zero? .... thanks ....mike .....


1.29

This was something I noticed and was concerned about. I personally would prefer that if the information isn't relevant to the mission it just be hidden. jmho.

Is there a way to turn on the "battery limit" ring? I'm using a P2V+ V3 with the V2.0 smart battery and I'm not seeing the limit ring. Any ideas?

Also, when setting up a mission, will the Phantom return to it's home point when it finishes the mission like the dji app? Or should a way point be set close to the home point to end the mission?
I haven't been able to actually put the bird in the air to test anything (weather) but have been messing around with things indoors.
Thanks.

In 1.30 I no longer show the home point as the last point; I am still showing the starting point, based on the current location of the Phantom; I think this should make the display less confusing; see what you think and let me know.

The smart battery ring wasn't painting in 1.29; it is corrected in 1.30; check it out. Note: The SDK only reports the circle when in flight, it doesn't always appear to be reported when on the ground or when the Phantom is close.

When using waypoints that Phantom doesn't have a built-in last waypoint of home; you are expected to set that point and that is the reason I don't show a line in the app. The Phantom gives you 16 waypoints; I think in Vision they do something to get 16 so they can include home but I figure that taking a point away (and leaving 15) just to set a location near/at home when most pilots likely set a waypoint near home anyway is better to allow the pilot to make the choice.

I think the way I did offline mission creation is nice but I'd like to hear feedback if you have some. When offline the 1st waypoint becomes the anchor, you create, edit and save the mission. Once on location, when the Phantom is turned on, then when you load the mission the Phantom becomes the anchor and the waypoints resolve. This means you can literally create a mission for any flying location from your home (or favorite pub), save it and once on-site the entire mission will resolve using the Phantom as a starting location. There is also a new editor option in 1.29. Each waypoint gets app-wide defaults but if you edit a waypoint you can temporarily change the defaults for the location and all new waypoints in the same mission get the new values. This is nice if your defaults are for open fields and you are creating a mission around trees where you might need a higher default altitude.

Again, keep the feedback coming! I'm keep a list and I'm always interested in how different people are using the app.

Ken

 

[AmosMoses]

Re: New app for Vision and Vision+ - Ultimate Flight for And

Great explanation Ken, thanks!

Really need this weather in the Midwest to clear up so I can get some air time! It's killing me.

 

[kenargo]

Re: New app for Vision and Vision+ - Ultimate Flight for And

Great explanation Ken, thanks!

Really need this weather in the Midwest to clear up so I can get some air time! It's killing me.

I know what you mean, I try to get 3-5 flights on any pre-release and weather can get in the way...

I reverted in flying in high wind this weekend to test the last bits of ground station flying. It went well. I think I'm down to icons and art for GS and it will release to the main store.

 

[Bear501]

Re: New app for Vision and Vision+ - Ultimate Flight for And

I have been stuck on the ground too because of weather, but still got a question. I have been planning ground station flights in the app, but it doesn't show the distances between way points and total distance of the hole flight. Is it just me doing something wrong or is it not showing the distances? Ken you are doing a great job developing this new app thanks for all the effort and can't wait for it all to come together.