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Great video, well done. Liked the shot of the fountain at the Bellagio. To crowded for me, I wouldn't want to fly down on the strip.
 

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DJI's no fly zones are often wrong. You need to check with FAA airspace classification. Here is KLAS airspace. It's class B to the ground throughout most all of the metro Vegas area.

 
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DJI's no fly zones are often wrong. You need to check with FAA airspace classification. Here is KLAS airspace. It's class B to the ground throughout most all of the metro Vegas area.

It's Class B in the ENTIRE county of Los Angeles (where we both live)

http://vfrmap.com/?type=vfrc&lat=34.201&lon=-118.359&zoom=10
DJI's no fly zones are often wrong. You need to check with FAA airspace classification. Here is KLAS airspace. It's class B to the ground throughout most all of the metro Vegas area.

It's Class B airspace in Los Angeles (where we both reside) over the ENTIRE COUNTY:

http://vfrmap.com/?type=vfrc&lat=34.201&lon=-118.359&zoom=10

Surely you're not acting like this prohibits drone use in those areas...
 
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Ian, I could very easily have gone onto your (stunningly gorgeous) Downtown LA footage thread and written "You need to check with FAA airspace classification. Here is KLAX airspace. It's class B to the ground throughout most all of the metro Los Angeles area." But that would just be silly.
 

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I don't fly in class B or C, ever. Not once. Most of Los Angeles is UNDER class B. As in it starts above 1,000ft or higher.
 
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I don't fly in class B or C, ever. Not once. Most of Los Angeles is UNDER class B. As in it starts above 1,000ft or higher.
So the Class B airspace is different in Los Angeles than it is in Las Vegas? You can fly below 1000 feet in Class B in Los Angeles, but not at ALL in Las Vegas?
 

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So the Class B airspace is different in Los Angeles than it is in Las Vegas? You can fly below 1000 feet in Class B in Los Angeles, but not at ALL in Las Vegas?
Airspace has a top and a bottom. There can be two or more different types of airspace at a given location depending on altitude. In Vegas it is to the surface (SFC). In LA it is to the surface in a small area around LAX. Other areas it is higher. Here's LAX Class B. Note it starts at 2,500ft in area C which covers a lot of LA.

 
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Airspace has a top and a bottom. There can be two or more different types of airspace at a given location depending on altitude. In Vegas it is to the surface (SFC). In LA it is to the surface in a small area around LAX. Other areas it is higher. Here's LAX Class B. Note it starts at 2,500ft in area C which covers a lot of LA.

To the people that don't think we should have to have certifications to fly this, I present that *(&^@# picture. :p

And if the entirety of Vegas is "no-fly" from the surface up... why on EARTH would there be just a 1.5 mile ring around McCaren? Isn't "SFC" pretty clear?

Also, what site are you getting the google earth maps from? I can't find overlays on google earth...
 

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Airspace is not too complicated but as you can see, reading the charts can lead to confusion if you're not familiar with them.

Can't remember where I got the airspace overlay for Google Earth. I'll take a look.
 
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Well I live in Vegas and I can tell you that most of your shots are way inside the 5 miles radius of McCarron -- hi MO
 
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Example the Luxor is maybe 2 miles at most same as the new. York new york
 
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Well I live in Vegas and I can tell you that most of your shots are way inside the 5 miles radius of McCarron -- hi MO
Of course it was. On DJI's map on their controller there is a 1.5 mile radius red circle... and nothing else. On their website there's a larger orange circle... but when I was setting up I followed the map on my controller and made sure I was out of what I thought was a no-fly zone. I'm pretty stunned that in actuality the entire city is restricted from the ground up.
 

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That's the thing. DJI's no fly zones do not reflect the actual airspace. Their database of airports is still not right (e.g. Burbank airport STILL not on it) and they chose a circle for simplicity whereas restricted airspace is most often anything but a circle.

I will say that the FAA has a lot of work to do too. Before drones, it didn't matter much that class B goes to the surface unnecessarily in many areas since no one had to a need to use other than cleared flights. With drones, that changes. The FAA needs to update their airspace to reflect that helis and drones may use the space below 500ft a certain distance from the airport.
 
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With all that said-- still a very cool and well done video
 
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Great video, well done. Liked the shot of the fountain at the Bellagio. To crowded for me, I wouldn't want to fly down on the strip.
The more I did it, the easier it got. When I started, the flight times were 5 or 6 minutes (and it felt like a half-hour). By the last one I was around 13 minutes, but never pushed it the limit. Once I saw I got a shot I liked, I wanted to take it down and runaway in my car. I had to keep telling myself to slow down and get more...
 
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Great video... you did break all the rules. Understand the nerves. Glad you made it and don't ever do it again... until the FAA grants you a COA, which they will never do. And, you have insurance...
 
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"Professional" drone operator?

Most on this site say there's no such thing (legally).

I am DYING to hear an explanation.
 

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