Patience and politeness pays off.

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I have been flying now for 4 years, and most local people know me. I fly down on the coastline, I avoid people, I never disturb anyone, or any wild life, I always show people my ipad screen, I do my best for our hobby.
Reward is, I now have permission from 5 local land owners to overfly their land, which gives me about 20 square miles of fun.
I can also fly over the bay, which is huge, and in the UK is "Crown Land", which has no limitations.
Always be polite, and friendly, explain what you are doing, show the screen, and you will be rewarded.

Does not work for the National trust, (UK),who own huge tracts of deserted landscape, and coastline, with a total ban. I am still doing my best to persuade them.
 
Well put sir. Seems like the Golden Rule has all but vanished in today's society. Makes me happy to see it poke it's head out in our hobby.
Well Joe, we knew it well in our day. Family and socialising with friends. Having respect and trust have all but gone. Today is mistrust, irreverence and instant gratification. Deception has increased tremendously.
Ps. Found a wallet last week in the middle of the country road I live near. It had just over $500 in cash. ( Refused any reward) When I returned it I made some new friends. They were in there mid 80's. We talked for a while and they want me to fly over their farm. They want to see what it looks like from they air.
 
Well Joe, we knew it well in our day. Family and socialising with friends. Having respect and trust have all but gone. Today is mistrust, irreverence and instant gratification. Deception has increased tremendously.
Ps. Found a wallet last week in the middle of the country road I live near. It had just over $500 in cash. ( Refused any reward) When I returned it I made some new friends. They were in there mid 80's. We talked for a while and they want me to fly over their farm. They want to see what it looks like from they air.

Ahhh…...Karma...…… what a beautiful thing!!
;)
 
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Always be polite, and friendly, explain what you are doing, show the screen, and you will be rewarded.

Well done! There have been others on this forum (not sure if they're still with us, and you probably remember them) who have been very vocal about taking just the opposite approach. You know, get in their face and scream, "You'll have to pry this controller from my cold, stiff hand" type of mentality. Yeah, no. I believe you've proven that diplomacy and patience does (eventually) have its reward. Enjoy it, you've earned it.
 
Well Joe, we knew it well in our day. Family and socialising with friends. Having respect and trust have all but gone. Today is mistrust, irreverence and instant gratification. Deception has increased tremendously.
Ps. Found a wallet last week in the middle of the country road I live near. It had just over $500 in cash. ( Refused any reward) When I returned it I made some new friends. They were in there mid 80's. We talked for a while and they want me to fly over their farm. They want to see what it looks like from they air.
We share the same morals Rootman, I'd have done the same thing. I am not a religious person but I know what's right and what is wrong. Glad you were able to help them and found some new friends as your reward. Better then anything you could have bought with that $500. You're a class act WV Rootman.
 
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Does not work for the National trust, (UK),who own huge tracts of deserted landscape, and coastline, with a total ban. I am still doing my best to persuade them.

Having browsed their page ...https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/features/flying-drones-at-our-places....I get the feeling there's some naive or misinformed approaches there. But where does it say (anywhere) they can dictate whether or not you can fly over their land?

There is law, there is etiquette, and there is common-sense and respect, so, with that in mind...

unless anyone proves otherwise, I understand you need landowners permission to take off from (and land on) their land, but you don't need their permission to fly over it (I'm talking UK here)
(and for the sake of completeness here, I'm adding that, as we all know, there are regulatory no-fly zones, or 'you-need-permission' zones...CAA not NT...just so no-one feels the need to add this)

Personally I wouldn't want to disturb wildlife, nesting birds, be a nuisance etc etc, but the point still remains...I can't see how they have an authority to 'ban' drone use over their land.
 
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Well said, sir, and you're absolutely right.

You sound to me like you're a fine ambassador to our sport.

Bud


I have been flying now for 4 years, and most local people know me. I fly down on the coastline, I avoid people, I never disturb anyone, or any wild life, I always show people my ipad screen, I do my best for our hobby.
Reward is, I now have permission from 5 local land owners to overfly their land, which gives me about 20 square miles of fun.
I can also fly over the bay, which is huge, and in the UK is "Crown Land", which has no limitations.
Always be polite, and friendly, explain what you are doing, show the screen, and you will be rewarded.

Does not work for the National trust, (UK),who own huge tracts of deserted landscape, and coastline, with a total ban. I am still doing my best to persuade them.
 
Wherever it is permitted to fly over a piece of property, I think it's really a matter of etiquette. For example, if I were to fly over a piece of private property, I would just make certain that I was a decent altitude (25 to 30 yards or so) above the tallest structure on that piece of property. That way anyone seeing you fly there would automatically assume that you mean no harm or disrespect, and aren't trying to "spy" on anyone on that property.

It may not be evident to everyone, but I think it would work for most people. That would be my guess anyway.

Bud


Having browsed their page ...https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/features/flying-drones-at-our-places....I get the feeling there's some naive or misinformed approaches there. But where does it say (anywhere) they can dictate whether or not you can fly over their land?

There is law, there is etiquette, and there is common-sense and respect, so, with that in mind...

unless anyone proves otherwise, I understand you need landowners permission to take off from (and land on) their land, but you don't need their permission to fly over it (I'm talking UK here)
(and for the sake of completeness here, I'm adding that, as we all know, there are regulatory no-fly zones, or 'you-need-permission' zones...CAA not NT...just so no-one feels the need to add this)

Personally I wouldn't want to disturb wildlife, nesting birds, be a nuisance etc etc, but the point still remains...I can't see how they have an authority to 'ban' drone use over their land.
 
A kind, friendly, respectful relationship works 99% of the time. When it fails, move on. It's not worth your time to try to get a friendly agreement with the 1% who seem to want to disrupt drone flying.
 

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