He also did not stop me from flying. This was a discussion I had with him after the fact. I did tell him I was flying well over 100 foot and doing nothing wrong.
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Careful to not bit the hand or you may find a cop at every corner you turn with a tickets booked. Don't tork off the chief....
Well, he's wrong. I don't think this has actually been resolved yet though, and he can make your life miserable in the meantime while it gets sorted out.I never said he "would" charge me, he claims he could, because I was flying under 400 foot.
This has gone in every direction when my real question was in reference to property owners owning the airspace over their property to 400 for which he claims has already been decided by the Supreme Court.
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you don't argue the ones with the gun, many minority young did and were in the headline news,Airspace is the sole jurisdiction of the FAA. Federal preemption prohibits a city, state or municipality from regulating airspace although many have enacted laws despite this. FAA regulations DO NOT protect you from local privacy and endangerment laws.
Most LEOs do not understand much of what I've just written.
The FAA actually has guidelines for local law enforcement concerning drones. You can find a copy on the FAA's website (or see attached file). Secure a copy, meet the Chief for coffee and give it to him so he has "guidance" when training his people. Be diplomatic. That garbage he was giving you is just that, garbage. If you want to take it a step further, give a copy to the city attorney. Your Chief is using the "English common law" standard of 400' above person's property, It is not being correctly applied. Also, Stalking must be "more than once" to be applicable, such as maybe taking pics through someones window, on several occasions, etc. Various states and communities may have ordinances in place concerning dones but nothing trumps federal statute or regulations. As a retired Police Captain, I should know the last thing the Chief wants to hear is "Hi Chief, I'm agent "place name here" of the FBI I'd like to talk to you a minute about a complaint my office has received" ......... (almost as bad as a 60 minutes crew showing up unannounced).
Please learn the law. When I went through the registration process there was a 'before you fly' type orientation. Did you skip that?
Not necessarily so, as the airspace classifications are per treaty and law. Class G airspace (starting at the ground) is uncontrolled, so the FAA can never really "own" it, regulate it or place restrictions on it (it would then be a different class of airspace if they did). There are areas such as around airports and such where other classes of airspace extend to the ground that the FAA does "own".
Just to be clear, this is a personal opinion and these issues may have been addressed authoritatively at some point in time that I'm just not aware of or missed.
But if I'm right, then the airspace above the tallest object on that property is public property, or at the very least a public easement. Either way, flight cannot be restricted by local laws as they would be preempted. Nor can photography be restricted, as it's not illegal to take a picture from the street where the camera is facing a private property.
Want more airspace, add something taller to the property! But if you stay above the private airspace of the property then there is no trespass.
Interesting that you mentioned Canada. I was watching the "National" a cpl weeks back and they were talking about some committee in Parliament taking up the drone question. (I watch Canadian TV sometimes).
We wouldn't have ended up with Federal Guidelines and FAA intervention of idiots wouldn't continually insist on trying to have their drones sucked into a jet engine at 2,000' AGL.
I followed this thread for some time and feel it's time to forget it & move on.And this has happened how many times? I'm counting zero.
More like we wouldn't have FAA registration and forthcoming rules if the media stopped fear-mongering and spreading false information.
There is also the commercial aspect. As Amazon and other talk about "drone delivery" service, the feds feel compelled to jump in and find a way to tax it.
I understand your position, but cannot fully agree. If the tallest object defines the limit, then above that is FAA space. Thus, you cannot add something taller without FAA permission because you are encroaching on their space.
I've posted this before. Probable Cause is whatever the on-scene officer deems it is for whatever situation he is in. Yes, one cannot be stopped without P.C., but I can find all kinds of P.C. to contact you if I wish to do so, and every one of them will be held valid in a court of law. As far as a drone goes, all I would have to state was there were other people, in proximity, who might be injured if it went out of control. Is it a BS excuse? Absolutely. But is it PC for the contact? It would be in the eyes of the court. All I have to do is to make it a public safety issue and RAS flies right out the window. 99% of LEO's are just curious and want to look at your setup. Be polite, explain it to them, show them how everything works, and they'll happily watch you fly. The last LEO I took the time to show all my stuff to, went over to Best Buy and bought one. Turns out he was just curious when he approached me. Of course me being a retired LEO with some rank didn't hurt any. We wouldn't have ended up with Federal Guidelines and FAA intervention of idiots wouldn't continually insist on trying to have their drones sucked into a jet engine at 2,000' AGL.
He also did not stop me from flying. This was a discussion I had with him after the fact. I did tell him I was flying well over 100 foot and doing nothing wrong.
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