dirkclod
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I hit the Max Height limit! 1654.2 FT!!!
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While you seem to be on top of things for your neck of the woods, most people aren't.
That's fine you disagree with my thoughts on this matter. However, since you disagree with me, that means I don't have the "right" to suggest things for this website or voice my opinions?
Given your comments, your hypocrisy is pretty evident.
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Asking the forum moderators to police users according to your determination of responsible flight is not opinion.
Asking the forum moderators to police users according to your determination of responsible flight is not opinion.
It isn't MY determination of responsible flight. It is the FAA's. One that seems to be shared by a good many of the members here.
The FAA WILL make life more difficult for us due to the irresponsible flights of others who haven't the sense to keep their flights that do not meet the FAA's guidelines to themselves. It's fine that you're so secure in the knowledge that the FAA has to go through Congress to make things happen where hobby level flight is concerned. That doesn't mean for one second that once public opinion becomes burdensome to Congress concerning our UAV's that things won't change, and change QUICKLY, to the detriment of all involved in this.
The fact that I've had over 25 years in Aviation to draw experience from is what allows my opinion to mostly agree with the FAA's guidelines for RESPONSIBLE flight except as noted above concerning LOS.
Just because you disagree with me doesn't give you the power to determine what I should or should not say on these forums. As long as I remain within the rules of this forum, then you are just going to have to deal with it.
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He is allowed to ask. And to be clear, BlackHawk388 didn't decide 400ft was a safe limit. The FAA did.
By the way. You're sure assuming a lot about my intent when I said:
"When will the staff here start directly addressing those who insist on exceeding the limits placed upon responsible flight."
You seem determined to have an argument. I wonder what your argument will be once irresponsible UAV owners, I will no longer refer to all of them as pilots because pilots care about the hobby and don't want to harm the already tenuous reputation of UAV's, force the FAA to place hard regulations on this hobby.
"When will the staff here start directly addressing those who insist on exceeding the limits placed upon responsible flight."
You seem determined to have an argument. I wonder what your argument will be once irresponsible UAV owners, I will no longer refer to all of them as pilots because pilots care about the hobby and don't want to harm the already tenuous reputation of UAV's, force the FAA to place hard regulations on this hobby.
UAV's won't be banned, it will just be illegal to fly them without first jumping through 50 hoops of bureaucracy.
Here's something that came up in another thread that applies to this topic.
What a lot of people seem to overlook is that the FAA is a federal entity.
States can enact rules, regulations and laws independent of federal laws. The old saying we used in the Army is true here.
You can add too, but not take away from, the regulations. Big Army has their regulations which must be followed. Each lower chain of command can add to those regulations but they cannot arbitrarily choose to disregard the regulations from higher. This is why I'm left SMDH when people insist on arguing about how FAA guidelines are JUST guidelines while they fly their drones at high altitudes.
Keep up the irresponsible practice of posting videos of your 1500' flights or long range, out of LOS flights, and States will take it upon themselves to add to, or simply create, their own regulations and laws concerning our hobby.
What a lot of people seem to overlook is that the FAA is a federal entity.
States can enact rules, regulations and laws independent of federal laws. The old saying we used in the Army is true here.
You can add too, but not take away from, the regulations. Big Army has their regulations which must be followed. Each lower chain of command can add to those regulations but they cannot arbitrarily choose to disregard the regulations from higher. This is why I'm left SMDH when people insist on arguing about how FAA guidelines are JUST guidelines while they fly their drones at high altitudes.
Keep up the irresponsible practice of posting videos of your 1500' flights or long range, out of LOS flights, and States will take it upon themselves to add to, or simply create, their own regulations and laws concerning our hobby.
I've gone to 450' due to sunlight washing out the display on my cellphone.
I may have gone higher at other points. My main issue with this thread, and those like them, is posting videos and such bragging about it.
Just like cresting a ridge line in Combat, you don't want to silhouette yourself to the enemy. So you keep a low profile to reduce incoming fire. I call that common sense. Evidently, not everyone agrees with that assessment.
49 USC § 40103 - Sovereignty and use of airspace
(a)Sovereignty and Public Right of Transit.—
(1) The United States Government has exclusive sovereignty of airspace of the United States.
In other words, states cannot regulate flight. Period.
You can complain all you want about people not following your rules, but the sky is not falling and the fear mongering that it is does real damage to the hobby.
This is a guy not thinking straight at all. No way could any spotter see the phantom at this height.
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I gonna use that Russian hack to fly about 600m high about 2 miles from my local municipal airport after work today. That way if this thread gets locked we can continue on a new one!
In reality tho... I agree with the rules the FAA has but also users don't need to be crucified everything they fly past the limits that someone else thinks are safe.
I have broke the 400' magic line and the LOS recommendation. If people just use a little caution and common sense surpassing those limits should not be a issue.
Go enjoy your phantom and stop bitching about how someone thousands of miles away is enjoying there's!!!
In reality tho... I agree with the rules the FAA has but also users don't need to be crucified everything they fly past the limits that someone else thinks are safe.
I have broke the 400' magic line and the LOS recommendation. If people just use a little caution and common sense surpassing those limits should not be a issue.
Go enjoy your phantom and stop bitching about how someone thousands of miles away is enjoying there's!!!
dirkclod
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You call it fear mongering. I call it common sense appreciation for the freedoms we have to operate within established guidelines. Evidently, you're limited in your scope.
The U.S. does have exclusivity on airspace. What you simply INSIST on not recognizing is the laws a State can write to limit one from ever taking off in the first place or, limiting WHERE AND WHEN they can fly. Laws can be written to completely exclude the Federal government.
I'm ALL about less government and less intrusion on my damned life. Having such beliefs, I CHOOSE to not poke the beast. I will not FORCE the government to intrude on my life once the greater, non-flying public gets tired of people like YOU thinking you have every right to do whatever you want with these things.
But hey. You keep on doing what you're doing. When the rules are changed and the limits are set in stone, I look forward to your lamenting just HOW the changes came about. Your confusion will give me tremendous laughter. You are part of the problem. I choose to be part of the solution. I can only hope that there are enough real, common sense having people out there who respect the guidelines so we aren't put into a restrictive, fun killing environment.
There are speed limits all over the country too. Car companies should GPS limit your cars speed to exactly what the posted limit is in your area.
They dont do that.
Why?
Because we're a free society. We can disagree, we can break laws and we can make poor decisions. Some laws are stupid and ill conceived and serve to protect no one but you from yourself. People break them every single day. Seatbelts come to mind, marijuana use another. Then there are laws that are in place for GOOD reason (generally accepted as good reason)... murder, grand theft, etc. For the most part, people DO NOT commit these crimes.
Bottom line is, we'll all disagree on what's safe and what isn't. I think flying over 400ft anywhere except near an airport is harmless. Unless you're near an airport, anything flything this low, you'll hear it and can GTF out of the way. You'll hear it WAY in advance. just get out of the sky. Real simple. If, if, if and if again, yeah, I SUPPOSE you COULD hit something, then if, if, if and if again... c'mon guys. Talking on your cellphone while driving or even changing the radio station poses more of risk to people than this does.
But, I digress. My point is, there should NOT be limits, regardless of laws. We're a FREE society FREE to make our own decisions.. good or bad. We as individuals make our own decisions.. good or bad or otherwise.
Now go fly your drone to 1650ft, or to 400ft. Go text and drive, drink and drive, do whatever you want. I may disagree, I may be disgusted or I may say meh, no harm in that. Do whatever you want. know the risks, know the consequences and live and let live.
I don't like drunk drivers. I HATE THEM. Do I want breathalyzers put in every car in America, NFW. STOP trying to control people. you went to 1650 ft. Good for you. It's cool as hell, I know. What an amazing piece of technology.... and that should be the end of that. armchair cops and FAA "agents" leave people alone. If you had any authority, you wouldn't be posting trying to scare people. You disagree, great. I disagree with you too so how about we just stop commenting unless we have something nice to say, huh?
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