How we do winter...

[rbhamilton]

And this is how we do Winter in Arizona. Shot yesterday (Dec 30, 2014).

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5AXjRpx1NQ[/youtube]

 

[donalB]

I'd show you winter where I am but it's too depressing!

Actually, looking forward to having the ponds and small lakes freeze over...it will make for some nice shots! But, I'm still jealous of YOUR winter

 

[dbfletcher]

Lovely video.. however, I just have a quick question. I was under the impression that it was forbidden to fly in any National Parks.. or when you say national forest is that not considered the same as a park?

 

[woobisah]

What is the coldest anyone has flown the P2V+ in? It's says not to go below 32 degrees, but I've seen many videos where there is no way it was even mid 20's. Living in the North East it would be hard to get many days above 32 for the next couple months.

Having said that, the Aerofly RC7 and a xbox 360 joystick is giving me some great practice.

 

[worldsoutro]

What is the coldest anyone has flown the P2V+ in? It's says not to go below 32 degrees, but I've seen many videos where there is no way it was even mid 20's. Living in the North East it would be hard to get many days above 32 for the next couple months.

Having said that, the Aerofly RC7 and a xbox 360 joystick is giving me some great practice.

I had some weird things happen when I was flying in upper 20's

 

[Great Pumpkin]

National Forests OK for flying, National Parks are not OK. rbhamilton didn't say where he was flying in Arizona, but it didn't look like it was in the Grand Canyon.

 

[rbhamilton]

I was under the impression that it was forbidden to fly in any National Parks.. or when you say national forest is that not considered the same as a park?

It's a federal forest. With no trees. It's OK to fly for non-commercial purposes.

http://www.fs.usda.gov/tonto/

"Use of an unmanned aerial system on national forest land does not require an authorization when the UAS is operated strictly for recreational or hobby use. The use of a UAS in wilderness is always prohibited use pursuant to the Wilderness Act of 1964 and Codeof Federal Regulations at 261.18(a).''

 

[dbfletcher]

National Forests OK for flying, National Parks are not OK. rbhamilton didn't say where he was flying in Arizona, but it didn't look like it was in the Grand Canyon.

Thanks for the clarification... however in his credits he does say "Tonto National Forest".

 

[dbfletcher]

Edit: Ok... it's a federal forest. With no trees. So I guess it's OK to fly.

http://www.fs.usda.gov/tonto/

Forest with no trees... only our govt could come up with that one! Pretty funny.

Edit: Well.. wikipedia doesnt think it is all that funny

"Although a forest is usually defined by the presence of trees, under many definitions an area completely lacking trees may still be considered a forest if it grew trees in the past, will grow trees in the future,[9] or was legally designated as a forest regardless of vegetation type.[10][11]"

Learned something new today....

 

[Larry L]

And this is how we do Winter in Arizona. Shot yesterday (Dec 30, 2014).

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5AXjRpx1NQ[/youtube]

That is just cruel! Especially when it is cold in Texas really nice video, I hope you & everyone has a fantastic New Year.

 

[slothead]

I was under the impression that it was forbidden to fly in any National Parks.. or when you say national forest is that not considered the same as a park?

It's a federal forest. With no trees. It's OK to fly for non-commercial purposes.

http://www.fs.usda.gov/tonto/

"Use of an unmanned aerial system on national forest land does not require an authorization when the UAS is operated strictly for recreational or hobby use. The use of a UAS in wilderness is always prohibited use pursuant to the Wilderness Act of 1964 and Codeof Federal Regulations at 261.18(a).''

Looks like a cool place to fly. Where did you get your quote? I couldn't find it in the link attached.

 

[hunch]

What is the coldest anyone has flown the P2V+ in? It's says not to go below 32 degrees, but I've seen many videos where there is no way it was even mid 20's. Living in the North East it would be hard to get many days above 32 for the next couple months.

Having said that, the Aerofly RC7 and a xbox 360 joystick is giving me some great practice.

I had some weird things happen when I was flying in upper 20's

I've flown mine in -1 last year here in Mn in the winter
With -15 wind chills.
This year I've only went out when it was couple degrees above couple times.

 

[woobisah]

What is the coldest anyone has flown the P2V+ in? It's says not to go below 32 degrees, but I've seen many videos where there is no way it was even mid 20's. Living in the North East it would be hard to get many days above 32 for the next couple months.

Having said that, the Aerofly RC7 and a xbox 360 joystick is giving me some great practice.

I had some weird things happen when I was flying in upper 20's

I've flown mine in -1 last year here in Mn in the winter
With -15 wind chills.
This year I've only went out when it was couple degrees above couple times.

Good to know Thanks! I noticed that the Regular Phantom 2 gets a much bigger range of temperature than the P2V+ so I'm guessing it's all about the camera.

 

[rbhamilton]

I got my quote from this article:

http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2014/11 ... ne-in.html

Forest service rules allow theuse of them in some areas, but not all, when used for recreational purposes.

"Use of an unmanned aerial system on national forest land does not require an authorization when the UAS is operated strictly for recreational or hobby use. The use of a UAS in wilderness is always prohibited use pursuant to the Wilderness Act of 1964 and Codeof Federal Regulations at 261.18(a).''

Read more here: http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2014/11 ... rylink=cpy

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When I tried to verify the information in the article I drew a blank. About the only official bit of info on photography in Federal Forests is this one:

http://www.fs.fed.us/news/releases/us-f ... commercial

It says they plan to ban commercial photography in the forest but recreational photography is allowed. No specific mention of drones either way. Interpretation of a 1964 law as it pertains to 2015 technology is bound to have a few problems but I'm sticking with "legal" until they specifically say otherwise. It is just a camera after all. A flying camera but a camera none the less.

 

[BigW25]

I intend to fly mine in a national forest this summer. I have a cabin in a national forest in the upper peninsula of MI. So unless the forest service comes out and announces new rules before then...

 

[gunslinger]

We do winter in New England by laying in copious amounts of fermented liquids, insuring our women are on the pill and putting our pets on prozac as household quads be a flyin'....

-slinger

 

[gunslinger]

We do winter in New England by laying in copious amounts of fermented liquids, insuring our women are on the pill and putting our pets on prozac as household quads be a flyin'....

-slinger

UPDATE: Wife saw this over my shoulder and I have a sudden pain on the right side of my head...

 

[Shuether]

What is the coldest anyone has flown the P2V+ in? .

Just took mine for a short flight today in -18°C(0°F). The Phantom did fine. My hands lasted about 7 minutes before I could barely feel my fingers...

 

[SteveMann]

I was under the impression that it was forbidden to fly in any National Parks.. or when you say national forest is that not considered the same as a park?

It's a federal forest. With no trees. It's OK to fly for non-commercial purposes.

http://www.fs.usda.gov/tonto/

"Use of an unmanned aerial system on national forest land does not require an authorization when the UAS is operated strictly for recreational or hobby use. The use of a UAS in wilderness is always prohibited use pursuant to the Wilderness Act of 1964 and Codeof Federal Regulations at 261.18(a).''

National Parks are managed by the Department of the Interior and emphasize strict preservation of pristine areas. National forests are managed by the Department of Agriculture and emphasize resource usage, such as lumber, cattle grazing, mineral products and recreation. They don't have to have trees to be a National Forest, just be managed by the Department of Agriculture.

No trees reminds me of my bank run when I flew commercially. My favorite stop was Panguitch, Utah - really in the middle of nowhere. The only building at the airport was an outhouse. The airport was next to the Panguich National Forest, and yes, there were no trees.