N017RW said:
Ok cool
You really expect everyone on the web to agree with you, now matter how strongly you feel?
You've got a lot of head-banging to come ! :lol:
(Or just drop it.)
Negative on the expectations. It is a concern for the situation that occurs when folks are working together and sharing info towards a common good; when faced with a problem.
The situation arises when something doesn't perform as it is supposed to and there are undefined variables that could be the cause.
As folks collectively work together to share info and isolate/eliminate theories and start to approach a possible solution that someone always enters in to convince others that what they just experienced, explained, provided video, etc - simply just didn't happen. Then they proceed to read the manual on what is supposed to happen and make various videos of things working properly and use that as a springboard to stop any collective reasoning or even acknowledgement that there was anything to discuss.
It is the age old problem of not being able to accept anything that has not happened to you as reality. This is not an isolated situation; there are many here that never felt anything that has not happened to them is even possible. For many, the concept of reality is mirror that is limited to only what they have experienced. For others, the concept of their personal reality expands by being able to acknowledge that others may have experienced life more fully than yourself, and have info to share. Info is not necessarily an absolute; merely a possiblity for further exploration.
It is somewhat of an unbalanced where there are some that have spent a lot of time trying to isolate nuances and form hypothesis based on the belief that what they just saw or experienced really happened. The other side of that equation is the hypothesis that if it hasn't happened to you, what everyone else has experienced is wrong because things haven't ( yet) worked out that way for you.
Somewhere between those two approaches is a lot of unexplored possibilities. Whenever I see someone providing plausible information that hasn't been considered before being dismantled by those that set out to prove that nothing wrong has happened, i see it as an interruption in the info sharing and problem solving process.
It is, apparently, a character flaw that I feel this way. I never expect anyone to agree with me out of any sort of obligation. I really do appreciate discussion that can help on understanding further.
I find the GPS board design and the manner in which the NAZA massages the data from the GPS module and the Compass data stream that passes through the GPS board to be one strong possibility for unpiloted flight. I also sense that the mechanical sensors within the flight controller are another cause for concern. Given the current design, those 2 items are not going to stop being a concern. It is the hope that efforts to get the highest level of data integrity presented to the flight controller, combined with finding the firmware weaknesses in fault tolerance that allow the possibility of it executing autonomous routines based on what appears to be bad data could be the focus of the conversation; rather than time wasted deflecting those who claimed what you just saw didn't actually happen by uploading a YouTube video of proper operation where it didn't happen, or spending a lot of time trying to recreate the failure using methods that weren't in play at the time of the reported failure.
None of what I, individually, think or feel is going to correct any oversights or design flaws. All I can try to do is find ways to mitigate what is possible to mitigate, try to avoid what there is no solution for and be willing to chance that each flight will be the one in which I lose the guessing game.
BTW, I have not yet had any flyaways. I currently have 3 Phantoms, and have had 4. Only one of then went walkabout, and it was due to a stuck NAZA sensor on it's 4th battery pack. The seller gladly let me make an exchange. But, just because I have not had the fly away experience doesn't put me on a crusade to convince others that it is not a possibility.