Will you be switching from Phantom series to the new Mavic 2 series?
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Precisely. I felt that being able to see the differences (again, not discrediting the video, just accepting the challenge presented) on such small media made any reference to a larger screen size irrelevant.
Portland Head Light - July 14 Version from Russell Schundler on Vimeo
shows it at a much larger scale
shows it at a much larger scale
still waiting for word on how we did deciphering the clips - I'm genuinely interested
He has been around (was on the forum not long ago). Maybe he isn't interested in a protracted pixel peeping marathon. He wouldn't be alone......no word from Russ - very weird
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What was the size of the LCD display you used? For most people, the size of display they use would make it impossible to tell the difference.
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BTW ... Below is a low light stress test or the Mavic 2 Pro. This was 25 minutes before sunrise. It was the darkest of the blue hour. Not too bad for a camera that is being trashed by many reviewer’s.
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You could straighten up the horizon and apply a touch of noise reduction, it’s definitely a keeper..... Not sure about the blue cast.
Very nice. Ridiculous performance for such a small package.
You could straighten up the horizon and apply a touch of noise reduction, it’s definitely a keeper..... Not sure about the blue cast.
Thanks Russ - I did it on my laptop so 17" (calibrated) screen. I tried it on the 40" screen but the resolution of the original video wasn't high enough to make any difference.
What makes the difference stand out for me is the details (particularly those where there is motion). Look at the waves breaking over the rocks in the P4Pro clips and then look at them in the Mavic clips - there's a very apparent difference. You can apply the same to any textured surface. the Mavic ones looked less dynamic and the bokeh not as clean - the differences were subtle but obvious at the same time.
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I wanted to show what the raw image looked like before extensive post processing. It was, without noise reduction, noisier than my Nikon 750 for the low level lighting that time of morning, but that's a tough standard. The horizon is easy to adjust. Finally, the image had a cool blue cast having been taken 25 minutes before sunrise. As photographer/artist, you know, we have liberties to make the image warmer than it really was. When I did that, I was really uncomfortable that it was not what I saw. About 1/2 hour later, during the golden hour, it would be much warmer, but the sky would, by then, be a warmer yellow/blue. But ... as you indicated, this is very subjective.
Simply a suggestion as to what could be done to improve the image significantly (noise and crooked horizon) from a technical perspective. The point really is, as you have indicated, both are simple tasks that can be performed with pretty much no post processing knowledge and basic software. In other words- its a great camera that anyone can get great results with with easily.
As to the blue cast- just as easy to correct/adjust and subject to taste, absolutely.
Re the blue- this is an M2P jpg with the camera set on auto white balance. Yes it was heavily overcast and the sky was grey tending blue but not like it is rendered in the jpg straight off the card.
If I decided to do something with this image (working from DNG) I would probably adjust the sky separately. I would straighten the horizon also.
The point really is this isn’t bad image quality straight from the card given the portability and overall feature set/performance. I’m happy with my M2. I’m not sure my P4P is that much better at anything that I might favour it for an outing now.
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you like the Mavic 2 Pro, that's great but in straight comparisons and unbiased reviews the P4P seems to offer better quality imagery, more modes, better frame rates etc etc etc. The question was who's planning on switching. Some of those that have switched already are happy, others are not and that seems to be the overall conclusion. For me, it appears that switching from my P4Pro would currently be a backward step and until I see any results that prove me wrong then I will be sticking with what i have.
yet you continue to join in posting images for comparison and commenting on comparison images! Oh and has Russ has responded maybe he had more interest than you (or indeed than you thought he did)
My question was to @mastix with an intent to learn what comparisons/direct experience might be relied on in forming the assessment.
Do you have any direct experience with the M2? Is there any such thing as an unbiased review? Pixel peeping and test chart evaluation certainly is a legitimate pursuit as is subjective evaluation of how graded footage and processed DNG files of real life scenes look. It seems a lot of the so called unbiased testing has employed flawed discipline in performing the tests. Go and have a look at the tests performed by @sar104 in the mammoth thread over at mavicpilots if your interested. Still imaging of the M2P is on par with the Sony RX100IV, not a cheap little camera (very well reviewed and respected) and it doesn't fly. Yes there are more aliasing artefacts apparent with the M2P in FOV video mode- that might be a deal breaker if your intended application for the M2 was to shoot test charts. My guess for most people that isn't the case.
I can tell you my opinion- you definitely don't need to consider switching from the P4P (based on my subjective evaluation based on actual use). If anything the stills from the M2P appear to have more natural colour and are if anything are slightly sharper. This whole carry on about the FOV 4K being really poor hasn't been my experience. Yes the HQ mode is sharper off the card and the P4P seems to be sharper (FOV) however for me the M2 has a more film like feel to it which I actually prefer.
Will I be abandoning the P4? No. I will favour the M2P in all instances where portability is an issue without any fear of any drastic loss of imaging performance though.
Personally I think any attempt to directly compare he P4P/A & V2 to the M2P/Z is silly, at least to the extent we might expect DJI's intent is for the M2 to provide better performance. They are different products. Lets compare the P4P to the Inspire 2 shall we?
What we do know is that the M2 offers ridiculously good imaging performance for its size and overall feature set- something we might have only dreamed about only two years ago.
I think Russ might have a significantly greater appreciation for the pursuance of his creations of artistic merit than spec sheets and pixel peeping test charts. Just a guess.yet you continue to join in posting images for comparison and commenting on comparison images! Oh and has Russ has responded maybe he had more interest than you (or indeed than you thought he did)
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