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Hi, a little bit late in saying hello. Peter from East Dorset, UK. Flying a Phantom 3 Standard. Beginning to see No Drones signs at certain beauty spots. Not good.
 
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Yes a lot of National trust land in Dorset,most of the coastline seems to be NT, and they do not like us,no flying allowed on NT land.
 
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Unless the Crown has gifted the foreshore to the land owners then their boundary ends at the high water mark. Between high and low water mark is land owned by the Crown, foreshore, and is for public use. The area from low water mark to 12 miles out is owned by the Government. So in theory you should be able to stand on the foreshore to fly. (Take your waders.) Now all we need is someone to test my assumption. :<)

Nice to meet you. My brother & I had an enjoyable hour flying at Lulworth Cove last Monday. Public slipway to the foreshore and no signs.
 
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I think most of Lulworth is NT land, as is Durdle and I think Chesil. Pity because there is so much beautiful coastline
You are right about the High and low water mark, but someone else can test it.
NT do not own the airspace, so in theory you can fly from private land over NT land, again someone else can test it.
I am not a lawyer or have any specialist knowledge, but I understand we have no rights to take off from a public footpath. A public footpath only grants you rights to pass and repass and no other activities.
Greetings from up North,very few restrictions here, yet.....
 
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Durdle Dor was our first port of call. :<(

My brother is living in Ripon and he has been advised not to upset the gamekeepers on the Moors during grouse season!

I must try and find who the Crown has gifted land to and where. Seems a shame this time of the year when the beaches are deserted. It's for the purpose of aerial photography not just flying it up and down.

Shame about the weather this weekend. It was shirt sleave order at Hurst Castle last Sunday. Wet, cold and windy this weekend. Don't even fancy playing golf.
 
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Yes they have a total ban on drones but they should not be allowed:

Flying drones at our places

The National Trust policy on this is criminalising, old fashioned and plain inaccurate, I am happy to join a group of pilots to take on this.

This actually contravenes the UK Civil Aviation Authority own rules. I could do a deconstruction of their ludicrous list point by point. The irony is that people interested in the environment like myself find it nearly impossible to fly over spaces that should be commons in Norfolk as it's mostly controlled by the Trust, Holkham State etc.

There are multiple threads about this on other forums, for example:

Flying over National Trust sites
 
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Yes they have a total ban on drones but they should not be allowed:

Flying drones at our places

The National Trust policy on this is criminalising, old fashioned and plain inaccurate, I am happy to join a group of pilots to take on this.

This actually contravenes the UK Civil Aviation Authority own rules. I could do a deconstruction of their ludicrous list point by point. The irony is that people interested in the environment like myself find it nearly impossible to fly over spaces that should be commons in Norfolk as it's mostly controlled by the Trust, Holkham State etc.

There are multiple threads about this on other forums, for example:

Flying over National Trust sites
Good evening. Thanks for the link. Beginning to become a bit of a renegade come recluse. I wouldn't go filming around Buildings where visitors congregate or over walkers. However, if I keep to the CAA Rules then I feel I can sleep at night.
 
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Good evening. Thanks for the link. Beginning to become a bit of a renegade come recluse. I wouldn't go filming around Buildings where visitors congregate or over walkers. However, if I keep to the CAA Rules then I feel I can sleep at night.
Yes, I use common sense,I would never fly near people or buildings,but even up here Cumbria, North Lancs, NT own vast tracts of land, now I do as you do,obey CAA rules. Even if challenged by NT wardens, what can they do,answer,SFA.
Fly safe and enjoy.


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Welcome to the forum Peter.
I hope you will find our site helpful and look forward to any input , photo's/video's you might post .
Don't be shy and ask anything if you can't find it by searching .
This bunch here are the smartest you will find anywhere :)
 
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I think most of Lulworth is NT land, as is Durdle and I think Chesil. Pity because there is so much beautiful coastline
You are right about the High and low water mark, but someone else can test it.
NT do not own the airspace, so in theory you can fly from private land over NT land, again someone else can test it.
I am not a lawyer or have any specialist knowledge, but I understand we have no rights to take off from a public footpath. A public footpath only grants you rights to pass and repass and no other activities.
Greetings from up North,very few restrictions here, yet.....

You can picnic on a public footpath. :)
 
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This statement is taken from the National Trust website. "We therefore do not allow drone flying from or over National Trust land except by contractors commissioned by the Trust for a specific purpose, who satisfy stringent CAA criteria, have the correct insurances and are operating under controlled conditions."


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Makes it really difficult as they own a large chunk of our coastal paths and can effectively stop us from flying at some of our most beautiful areas.


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I think we will have the same arguments as our US friends. It goes something like. The CAA are designated by Parliament to control the air space over the UK. The Air Navigation Order is the enabling law which defines all the parameters. It then means that only the CAA can define who can fly where and when, not the landowner. Temporary restrictions have to be applied for military exercises or for when a foreign ruler is visiting London. So, I would argue, that while the National Trust or any landowner can state that drones cannot be flown from their property they have no say concerning who flys over them after having taken off elsewhere.


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If we take off from outside NT land and fly over the National trust property or land They cannot stop us. The logic is that Planes and helicopters cannot fly over the NT lands without permission. No height is mentioned and as others have pointed out nobody or authority owns airspace with the exception of airports and military installations etc. This is sensible. I am going to Cornwall this year and will fly on the coast. NT owns large tracts.
 
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I think most of Lulworth is NT land, as is Durdle and I think Chesil. Pity because there is so much beautiful coastline
You are right about the High and low water mark, but someone else can test it.
NT do not own the airspace, so in theory you can fly from private land over NT land, again someone else can test it.
I am not a lawyer or have any specialist knowledge, but I understand we have no rights to take off from a public footpath. A public footpath only grants you rights to pass and repass and no other activities.
Greetings from up North,very few restrictions here, yet.....
Chesil beach has three owners: From Portland to the boundary stone at Littlesea it is owned by the Crown Estates, From theboundary stone to West Bexington it is owned by Ilchester Estates, and from West Bexington to West Bay it is owned by the National Trust
Durdle Door (sometimes written Durdle Dor) is a natural limestone arch on the Jurassic Coast near Lulworth in Dorset, England. It is privately owned by the Welds, a family who owns 12,000 acres (50 km2) in Dorset in the name of the Lulworth Estate. It is open to the public.
so dont take to much notice of NT there sits might say have a nice walk to Durdle door from there pay display car park but they dont own it
 

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