BREAKING!!! U.S. Will Require Drones to Be Registered

[Phantom751874]

The point is how much freedom are you willing to keep giving up? Where does it end? It's a slippery slope man. What if the big gov decided we had to "register" every material purchase over $100? What would you say to that? I mean the argument could be made that anything could be used in a manner that puts the public "at risk". Better to know who owns what right?

Someone made the point that the big gov doesn't have the resources to do this. I agree, it's going to be a cluster f@ck. Think about it. You sell your drone and have to go trough the same thing you do for selling a car? How are they going to keep up with this? It will be a massive burden on the owner, buyer and big gov to keep everything straight.

Once law enforcement gets wind of this they'll by default ask for registration papers (I keep thinking of socialist countries here). Most law enforcement see drones as a nuisance. You're flying, they see you, "registration papers please". It will be a massive pain in the *** and we will be TAXED in order to pay for the whole Ponzi scheme.

 

[J.James]

Ya Ill make sure to get around to registering any of my drones right after I would register a gun... which is never. The goverment has no ******* business knowing what any one owns
and regerstration is control and then leads to eventual confiscation when they decide to go after the drones. SCREW THEM they can bite me and can kiss my florescent white arse.

only a fool or a tool would comply

 

[Justin Namon]

Time for some fixed wing FPV action y'all

 

[GoodnNuff]

X2 bro.
i wonder if this will affect the heli guys?
this is a good example of technology getting squeezed for money and regulated in the big picture.

Same thing I've wondered - is this only multirotors or all RC devices? I'm sure there will be a weight class of 2-3 kg or more. I doubt little quads that can't fly in a brisk breeze will not be required to be registered.

 

[kirk2579]

Here is what I think will happen;
We will be required to register our drones, at which time they will be assigned an identification number of some sort that will be affixed to a drone. If your drone is ever involved in a crash or goes rogue and becomes a serial killer, The Man will know who to come after.
I also imagine that if we are seen flying in a restricted or "unsafe" area LE will have the authority to ask to see our registration papers (hopefully they will need "just cause" to even question us), if we aren't registered we will probably be fined - perhaps the drone confiscated until we register it.
Whether I agree with it or not, I wished we would have policed ourselves better.
This doesn't come as a surprise, does it?

This was never in yours, mine, or any of our hands to control or police "better".

This IS what government DOES, period! and it was bound to happen once the numbers , cost and capabilities hit that magic point.

they live to make laws, rules and regulations whether we need them or not.

 

[Fyod]

The rule will state "a banner with 9" high contrast lettering" as shown...

View attachment 33691

JD

You could do this though nsfw link

Btw: This is exactly what could be expected to happen when it takes the FAA years to make reasonable guidelines that would allow people to register into a program that actually makes sense and allows commercial operators to work freely without being cursed with extreme penalties.

 

[GoodnNuff]

This was never in yours, mine, or any of our hands to control or police "better".

This IS what government DOES, period! and it was bound to happen once the numbers , cost and capabilities hit that magic point.

they live to make laws, rules and regulations whether we need them or not.

I disagree. I think we are facing this type of control as direct result of drone pilots flying stupid.
Hobbyists have been flying RC aircraft for years and the government has never looked at us twice. We've been strapping cameras to fixed wing RC aircraft for a couple of decades, and nobody has complained. But now we have these RC aircraft with precise control, that can hover in one spot, are equipped with cameras that allow us to fly far higher and further than we ever could before (BLOS). Now add a bunch of pilots who think they are entitled to fly anywhere they want at any time they want with impunity. The public didn't like what they were seeing and the complaints have been loud. I've never had to register any of the fixed wing aircraft I fly because they have never been flown by hobbyists in the same manner that drones have been flown.
I stand by my original statement.

 

[JKDSensei]

If your drone is ever involved in a crash or goes rogue and becomes a serial killer, The Man will know who to come after.
I also imagine that if we are seen flying in a restricted or "unsafe" area LE will have the authority to ask to see our registration papers (hopefully they will need "just cause" to even question us), if we aren't registered we will probably be fined - perhaps the drone confiscated until we register it.
Whether I agree with it or not, I wished we would have policed ourselves better.
This doesn't come as a surprise, does it?

Speak for yourself. VERY few at this forum have ever done anything to deserve this.

 

[GoodnNuff]

Speak for yourself. VERY few at this forum have ever done anything to deserve this.

Telling me to speak for myself, while you speak for the forum?
Typical.

 

[JKDSensei]

Here we go again......

I disagree. I think we are facing this type of control as direct result of drone pilots flying stupid.

I would say you are wrong. it is a direct result of the fact we no longer have a representative government. And said government is out of control. Show me proof of all these drone close calls. You can't. You're just taking the medias word for it. We can all trust the media right?

Hobbyists have been flying RC aircraft for years and the government has never looked at us twice. We've been strapping cameras to fixed wing RC aircraft for a couple of decades, and nobody has complained.

Simple. And you're getting warm....See post above. We've never had a rogue, runaway government like this before. Keep going....there's hope you may yet see the light.

But now we have these RC aircraft with precise control, that can hover in one spot, are equipped with cameras that allow us to fly far higher and further than we ever could before (BLOS). Now add a bunch of pilots who think they are entitled to fly anywhere they want at any time they want with impunity. The public didn't like what they were seeing and the complaints have been loud. I've never had to register any of the fixed wing aircraft I fly because they have never been flown by hobbyists in the same manner that drones have been flown.
I stand by my original statement.

No matter the era, current tech was considered "high tech". Back when I start flying RC, heck simple Radio Controls were considered "evil high tech" and just like today, many screamed for government oversight. Difference was, our government worked FOR THE PEOPLE mostly. Unlike today.

But hey.....aren't we getting "Off Topic" ?

I love this image !!!

 

[JKDSensei]

Telling me to speak for myself, while you speak for the forum?
Typical.

Fine. Show me all the posts where people have admitted to flying in a harmful manner and let's compare that to the number of people who have not done so.

Looking at the posts over time, it appears most are responsible operators. We don't need to control everyone over just a handful is my point.

 

[GoodnNuff]

Ok, lets just close the thread before it becomes another vehicle for this individual's political ranting?

 

[JKDSensei]

You are referring to your own.
Best thing you've said in a long time.
I'm bowing out of this one now while I can.

Good luck everyone

Peace

 

[cheebs]

Well, on the fence with this one. One one hand, it's necessary to curb (and hold responsible) all the fools that fly inappropriately. On the other, this reminds me of the gun registration process in Australia. On the surface it was meant to keep track of legal weapons. In reality it was used to quickly and easily confiscate all of those registered guns, once a new law was passed.
I for one, am glad I live in a "lawless" third-world country where the issue of UAVs is not even an issue. But, even though here I could probably take off within a few hundred yards of an airport, fly over crowds or downtown, it's something I would never do.
If I remember correctly, when there was a rash of motorcycle fatalities in the US, and the helmet law was abolished, many states enacted regulations that would require prospective riders to take a safe riding class before taking delivery of the bike. Maybe something similar with the online vendors/LHSs requiring a short safety training be completed before handing over the craft.

 

[redmoe]

You are referring to your own.
Best thing you've said in a long time.
I'm bowing out of this one now while I can.

Good luck everyone

Peace

The funny thing is the reality is likely right between both opinions. A hand full of irresponsible events have given the media more fodder for the antidrone movement. Secondly the federal government has been asserting its authority well past what the founding fathers envisioned.

The combination of the two has led to this and most likely more restrictions in the future.

 

[GoodnNuff]

I agree, this is a result of the media - how else would we know about incidents and alleged incidents if it weren't for the media. Of course they embellish the reports to add drama and interest, but the point is, WE as drone owners have given them plenty of fodder for their fear mongering.

I guess some people assume that all that happens in the world of drones is documented here on this list. It isn't. This is just a small segment representing drone owners and their behaviors on this list. There are many drone pilots who don't post on forums or participate in the community - I know several here in the area.

A few years ago the Seattle Police Department announced they had purchased 2 or 3 drones for police use. Immediately there was a public back lash fed by several groups who got the citizens inflamed and enraged over this type of spying and surveillance (the drones weren't going to be used for either, but as a tool for the SWAT team), and the PR push against drones and the resultant invasions of privacy was very effective. So that set the stage...
Now on the heels of that, recreational drones become the norm, and the local media has kept Seattleites angry over the potential for invasion of privacy and other problems associated with drones.
Here is what has been documented and reported locally over the last year or so:

1) Lady looks out 26th (or thereabouts) floor of her condo to see a drone looking in her bedroom window at dawn. Calls police and the media and is certain that she was the victim of a high tech voyer. The Facts were reported but hidden on back page the next day: the drone was at that altitude, but not looking in her window. It was a legitimate and legal survey team using a drone for a construction project next door - it was flying that early to avoid worrying people. Media used it to scare high rise dwellers.

2) Drone interferes with news helicopters reporting a large tire and garbage fire, coming close to news helicopter. This was actually caught on film, as well as the landing, and the operator, and his home. Another opportunity for the media to scare people.

3) Someone crashes their Inspire into high voltage power lines 150 feet above Lake Union (the houseboat community) in downtown Seattle. It stays there for days, the sizzling audible from the ground and causing brown outs in the power supply to the houseboats. It was finally removed at a cost of over $15,000 to the power company. Another few days of fear mongering from the media - they really liked this story!

4) A spectator was hit in the head and knocked unconscious by a Phantom at one of the summer parades here in downtown Seattle. Oh yeah, the media had a field day with this one! Scary how dangerous these drones are eh?
These are just a handful of events I can recall of the top of my head in this little area of the world.
Add all the other media reports from across the country and yeah, I think we could have flown a little more responsibly and avoided this government intervention.

Please note, I have not pointed a finger at this list or its members, nor have I attempted to speak for the list....

 

[Phoenix Outdoors]

The media is ran by the government

Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

 

[GoodnNuff]

LOL
The government doesn't have the resources to register drones, yet they have the resources to control all media?
Ok.

 

[Phoenix Outdoors]

LOL
The government doesn't have the resources to register drones, yet they have the resources to control all media?
Ok.

They own the media. It's why you never hear about good guys that conceal carry stopping shootings. Because that wouldn't go towards their agenda.

Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

 

[LuvMyTJ]

I hate to say it but you would have to be blind & deaf to not know that the media is controlled by the government from local on up to federal. I did a quick search on one subject the government is always trying to hide. Here are just a few of thousands of links...

Gulf Oil Spill: Media Access 'Slowly Being Strangled Off'

Update: Is there a media blackout on the fracking flood disaster in Colorado?

Remove the Media Blackout and no Fly Zone arround the Arkansas Oil Spill, Protect the Earth not BIG OIL ! | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government

The Alberta Oil Spill the Media Isn’t Covering