Any P4 owners going to a Mavic 2 Pro or Zoom?

WWK888 · Aug 30, 2018

I have been flying my P4 for two years and have resisted getting the P4P although I was tempted. I decided to add the Mavic 2 Pro to my fleet based on the upgraded camera. I also want it for portability.

Anyone else picking one up?

Cyngen · Aug 31, 2018

Not at this time, I have the P4Pv2.0 and am happy with it. I might go for a Mavic 2 next year for the more transportable footprint

John1960 · Aug 31, 2018

P4 pilot and happy with that

Cliff-622 · Sep 1, 2018

Guys....dont dump your P4P for a Mavic-II untill you see my side by side camera lab tests next week. The P4P beats the crap out of the Mavic-II in 4k video mode. Results in a few days on YouTube

Tweekme · Sep 3, 2018

Cliff-622 said:
Guys....dont dump your P4P for a Mavic-II untill you see my side by side camera lab tests next week. The P4P beats the crap out of the Mavic-II in 4k video mode. Results in a few days on YouTube

Cliff, what is your YouTube channel?

Thanks!

Chopstix Kid · Sep 5, 2018

My M2P gets delivered tomorrow. I love my P4, just want something a bit more portable and better suited for the RE googles--I'll let my sons wear them while I fly.

With The Birds · Sep 5, 2018

Cliff-622 said:
Guys....dont dump your P4P for a Mavic-II untill you see my side by side camera lab tests next week. The P4P beats the crap out of the Mavic-II in 4k video mode. Results in a few days on YouTube

It’s next week...

Safety71 · Sep 7, 2018

bigger is better, and i prefer my P4P in every way.

Cliff-622 · Sep 14, 2018

With The Birds said:
It’s next week...

Here 'ya go! It's a CRAZY one!

With The Birds · Sep 14, 2018

Cliff-622 said:
Here 'ya go! It's a CRAZY one!

Whats the punch line?

From what I saw your making some assumption about potential line skipping or pixel binning in certain video modes.

Did you include still image DNG files in your comparison?

As to your suggenstin the full sensor isn’t being employed if you see the same FOV across the frame in 16:9 or a still the full sensor is being used- any discussion must be about the video processing scheme.

Cliff-622 · Sep 14, 2018

With The Birds said:
Whats the punch line?

From what I saw your making some assumption about potential line skipping or pixel binning in certain video modes.

Did you include still image DNG files in your comparison?

As to your suggenstin the full sensor isn’t being employed if you see the same FOV across the frame in 16:9 or a still the full sensor is being used- any discussion must be about the video processing scheme.

Yes,...you need to see the video portion that describes "line skipping". This common readout technique reads the entire sensor from edge to edge,...but it skips lines and leaves line "gaps" on certain horizontal and vertical intervals.

Photos are a full pixel scan. 20 megapixels like normal.

Did you notice that 2.7K image is virtually identical to "4k" FOV? Why,...because line skipping only reads 2.7k pixels (about) for BOTH 2.7 and "4k" modes.

"HQ" is another surface area reduction. It just reads a 1:1 RGGB rectangle portion from the middle of that sensor. Again,...ANOTHER type of partial read-out.

Check out the video. I know it's long and boring but it does explain it.

CT

With The Birds · Sep 14, 2018

Cliff-622 said:
Yes,...you need to see the video portion that describes "line skipping". This common readout technique reads the entire sensor from edge to edge,...but it skips lines and leaves line "gaps" on certain horizontal and vertical intervals.

Photos are a full pixel scan. 20 megapixels like normal.

Did you notice that 2.7K image is virtually identical to "4k" FOV? Why,...because line skipping only reads 2.7k pixels (about) for BOTH 2.7 and "4k" modes.

"HQ" is another surface area reduction. It just reads a 1:1 RGGB rectangle portion from the middle of that sensor. Again,...ANOTHER type of partial read-out.

Check out the video. I know it's long and boring but it does explain it.

CT

Thank you- simple question please..... How do the still images compare between P4P and M2..?

With The Birds · Sep 15, 2018

Cliff-622 said:
Yes,...you need to see the video portion that describes "line skipping". This common readout technique reads the entire sensor from edge to edge,...but it skips lines and leaves line "gaps" on certain horizontal and vertical intervals.

Photos are a full pixel scan. 20 megapixels like normal.

Did you notice that 2.7K image is virtually identical to "4k" FOV? Why,...because line skipping only reads 2.7k pixels (about) for BOTH 2.7 and "4k" modes.

"HQ" is another surface area reduction. It just reads a 1:1 RGGB rectangle portion from the middle of that sensor. Again,...ANOTHER type of partial read-out.

Check out the video. I know it's long and boring but it does explain it.

CT

You might have a bad copy of the Mavic 2- check this out

Cliff-622 · Sep 15, 2018

No,..the lens and sensor are good. Photographs are as rock solid as the Phantom 4 Pro. Saw his video too. It confirms my findings too.

I really hope that more people can publish test results too.

Th easiest test a single Mavic-II Pro owner can do is test their FOV "4k" wide mode against their own 2.7K mode and post the results.

With The Birds · Sep 15, 2018

Cliff-622 said:
No,..the lens and sensor are good. Photographs are as rock solid as the Phantom 4 Pro. Saw his video too. It confirms my findings too.

I really hope that more people can publish test results too.

Th easiest test a single Mavic-II Pro owner can do is test their FOV "4k" wide mode against their own 2.7K mode and post the results.

Im not sure that it might be said the P4P is monumentally better looking at the processed footage. Binning/line or column skipping is very common in many cameras as you are no doubt aware. It is usually done because of a video SOC speed limitation though, it takes a lot more grunt to do 30 or 60 fps than for a still frame obviously.

I doubt your theory re heat is an issue. The M2 seems to have a lot of aluminium in the construction which could be employed as a very effective heatsink. Can you imagine what DJI might do to their reputation deliberately crippling the camera? And why? The P5 isn't far away.