The P3 and it's flight records don't see it that way. It only knows the ground level it took off at. Outside of the VPS range, it has no idea how high it is.
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Then you win the argument. I will probably never need to be more than 400' AGL. My DJI Pilot app doesn't see it your way though. In GPS mode, it sets a 500M limit from the home point, not the ground below it at any given time. But as long as the law is as you say, then I'll probably never really need more than 500M either, but some people could use a little more flexibility in the app.
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Steve, are you expecting me to post his contact details online?
And he wasn't giving us his opinion. He was repeating for us the FAA's official position. Everyone then jumped down his throat and he left.
But he's not the only one from the FAA saying it. They all are. It's on their website.
To our fully [un]qualified lawyers, if you want to help the FAA reinterpret their own regulations and get them to say something else, go for it. Until then, they see it as a violation of their regulations.
This horse is so beaten.
And he wasn't giving us his opinion. He was repeating for us the FAA's official position. Everyone then jumped down his throat and he left.
But he's not the only one from the FAA saying it. They all are. It's on their website.
To our fully [un]qualified lawyers, if you want to help the FAA reinterpret their own regulations and get them to say something else, go for it. Until then, they see it as a violation of their regulations.
This horse is so beaten.
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How am I supposed to stay under 400' when I'm flying FPV at over 2 miles away? 
I can't just fly like a pansy all the time.
I can't just fly like a pansy all the time.When would you ever need to be 300' in the air?
Take that answer and apply it to your question.
They mention a lot of things on their website... not all of them laws.
If the FAA wants to propose a civil penalty for a violation, the FAA Enforcement and Compliance division sends a civil penalty letter to the person charged with a violation. The civil penalty letter contains a statement of the charges, the applicable law, rule, or regulation, and the amount of civil penalty that the Administrator will accept in full settlement of the action or an offer to compromise the civil penalty.
The FAA is required to advise the pilot of the charges or other reasons for the action before taking the action and provide the pilot with an opportunity to answer or explain why the action should not be taken.
So, I ask you and all that I ever asked of your imaginary friend: What regulation?
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Wow. It's against their "guidance" not their regulations. They don't have any regulations just recommendations. They haven't said it's illegal because it's not. When it's law then ok.
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I saw a P3 fly by today at 500 feet, towing a banner advertising for Facebook. I found the guy who was flying and when I was through scolding him, I asked if he was hiring pilots.
AMEN BROTHER. too many children (chronologically and otherwise) out there attempting to out stupid each other for the sake of a YouTube .
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I am not a lawyer. Neither are you. It's pretty simple. The FAA came to this site and said it is against their regulations to fly above 400ft. If you can find me a verified FAA authority or someone from a higher authority who will say otherwise, then there's room for discussion.
Until then, which regulation applies and whether or not it is actually legal for them to enforce doesn't matter. I actually think it's a sketchy assertion myself. But I am not a lawyer. No amount of amateur internet lawyering is going to override their assertion. If you think it's wrong, take them to court.
Yawn. This is really really boring to repeat over and over.
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Just for clarification, this forum will not be removing members or deleting threads based on FAA guidelines. While that tactic may at first seem justified, when you think about it further, it turns into a nightmare.
First off, its difficult to judge 400 ft based on a photo. Secondly, how do you know if the pilot is standing at their window flying from 25 feet away but the Phantom is 500 ft. above the ground. And thirdly, the FAA guidelines only apply to the USA, so therefore, we would have to know the regulations of all countries and enforce those as well.
Obviously we encourage safe flying and flying below 400 feet, but at this point, we cannot regulate how people fly. We will leave that to the FAA.
First off, its difficult to judge 400 ft based on a photo. Secondly, how do you know if the pilot is standing at their window flying from 25 feet away but the Phantom is 500 ft. above the ground. And thirdly, the FAA guidelines only apply to the USA, so therefore, we would have to know the regulations of all countries and enforce those as well.
Obviously we encourage safe flying and flying below 400 feet, but at this point, we cannot regulate how people fly. We will leave that to the FAA.
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dirkclod
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Well Amos..I believe your original question of
Sidenote / Thanks TJ, ian and Jacob for cleaning that up
Just got answered !
Sidenote / Thanks TJ, ian and Jacob for cleaning that up
Well Amos..I believe your original question of Just got answered !
Sidenote / Thanks TJ, ian and Jacob for cleaning that up
Yes it did... Thank you for the crystal clear answer Jacob!
Now, does anyone know exactly what the FAA rules and regulations are and have any good legal advice for me??
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