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I get your point however I find the 1” sensor designation (the physical diameter of the now obsolete 1” vacuum tube imaging device) throws more people off. Super 35 is a recognised pro film gate size, it covers the full frame width of 35mm film stock.I think that the term Super 35mm sensor is misleading.
A Full Frame / 35mm sensor is 36x24 mm. This "Super 35mm sensor" is a 23.5 x 15.7 mm 24 MP CMOS sensor with 3.91 um pixels.
This makes it a APS-C sensor as used in the Sony A6300 or Canon 80D/M5. Maybe it is the sony Exmor IMX284?
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I agree it is an much larger sensor than the X5 (3.2 x), but a full frame sensor is almost 2.5 times larger.
Besides that it looks an magnificent camera. How much would it cost to buy a total Zenmuse X7 set with an Inspire 2?
Since this is a APS-C sensor, they could have used the Canon EF-M mount. There are not so many EF-M lenses yet, but with the adapter you can (in theory) use all EOS lenses.I get your point however I find the 1” sensor designation (the physical diameter of the now obsolete 1” vacuum tube imaging device) throws more people off. Super 35 is a recognised pro film gate size, it covers the full frame width of 35mm film stock.
The only downside I see is the custom mount, would be nice if it was a more common mount so we had more choice of glass to use. I guess the short sensor to flange distance will make any chance of adaptors being available third part slim.
6.5K USD will get you the I2 with X7 and a lens. That’s a bargain if you look at how much you would spend for a similar performing rig from current competitor offerings. It’s well within reach of serious hobbyists, look at what it costs for a higher end DSLR and a lens or two. My first full frame DSLR was $10K for the body only, the prices will come down over time.The Inspire 2 without camera cost around $2,500 American dollars. With the gimbal plus the zenmuse x7... probably around $6500 to $8500 American dollars.
6.5K USD will get you the I2 with X7 and a lens. That’s a bargain if you look at how much you would spend for a similar performing rig from current competitor offerings. It’s well within reach of serious hobbyists, look at what it costs for a higher end DSLR and a lens or two. My first full frame DSLR was $10K for the body only, the prices will come down over time.
Out of interest what tech do you see as currently available that is lacking in the I2?Still it comes down to DJI bad support, if you spend this kind of money you would expect better support then DJI NO CARE Chineese style support.
Also I have Inspire 1 and I am reluctant to buy an Inspire 2 (Inspire 2 is old technology and is time for an Inspire 3).
So if they would come out with a Inspire 3 package with the X7 combo and a support that does care about customers - then I would consider.
Out of interest what tech do you see as currently available that is lacking in the I2?
I’m not sure what you mean exactly with respect to goggles functionality, if your saying it would be nice for a camera operator to have head tracking control of the recording camera that could be cool.I am sure there are lots of new things coming on the next I3. Don't you think?
Perhaps better 6 way avoidance
Perhaps a dedicated FPV for the drone operator in order to use googles (so the came camera operator can own X7)
Perhaps better engines to keep flight time with the extra X7 weight
Perhaps i button to change from transportation to flight mode.
Perhaps improved transmission.
Perhaps smaller size and lighter body with lighter and improved batteries?
Yeah, I think the list can go on.
I am sure you have a few things on your wish list...
I’m not sure what you mean exactly with respect to goggles functionality, if your saying it would be nice for a camera operator to have head tracking control of the recording camera that could be cool.
The inspire 2 already has the single button press (on the AC) to enter transport mode now.
You are unlikely to see the other features you desire in an inspire 3. You might get improved obstacle avoidance, subject to the development schedules of Intel/movidous or other third party tech suppliers to DJI. You won’t get a more efficient propulsion system, electric tech has advanced well to the limits of what is realisable here. Similarly for battery tech LiPO offers the best energy density to weight compromise available amongst current technology having regard to cost, convenience and reliability. If you look at how this AC is designed finding weight reductions probably won’t happen without adding significant cost.
I’m not sure what you mean exactly with respect to goggles functionality, if your saying it would be nice for a camera operator to have head tracking control of the recording camera that could be cool.
The inspire 2 already has the single button press (on the AC) to enter transport mode now.
You are unlikely to see the other features you desire in an inspire 3. You might get improved obstacle avoidance, subject to the development schedules of Intel/movidous or other third party tech suppliers to DJI. You won’t get a more efficient propulsion system, electric tech has advanced well to the limits of what is realisable here. Similarly for battery tech LiPO offers the best energy density to weight compromise available amongst current technology having regard to cost, convenience and reliability. If you look at how this AC is designed finding weight reductions probably won’t happen without adding significant cost.
I wasn’t aware there had been a motor upgrade on the Mavic, the inspire 2 was released later though so we would expect any tech providing for the improved efficiencies (if any) would already be in the inspire.With on FPV camera you would be able to have one guy controlling the drone thru googles as the FPV camera is always forward - as you where sitting in the drone. Then the camera operator with slave RC and googles can control the camera in what ever direction, for example facing down. Not to hard to implement.
Regarding efficiency you know that the Mavic that came after Inspire 2 already has upgraded motors that allows longer flight time with same battery.
But I can agree that it is harder to squeeze more then 10% more out of same battery as of today. That will however make bigger leaps in the future for sure.
There will be an Inspire 3 , but we don't know when. Then you will see there will be some great enhancement, believe it or not.
I wasn’t aware there had been a motor upgrade on the Mavic, the inspire 2 was released later though so we would expect any tech providing for the improved efficiencies (if any) would already be in the inspire.
Independent camera control for salve remote operator is already available on the inspire 2 with the pilot having FPV. Head tracking as you say isn’t available and would be a nice feature for some I am sure.
Can’t blame them for the pricing strategy, its a simple formula. If people want or need something and they can’t get the same or similar product from another supplier that is a great opportunity for the seller. In reality they may not be as hungry on the pricing as it might first seem. The cameras and lenses are almost certainly bought in so DJI would be paying a premium for R&D cost recovery and relatively small production volumes.I think they missed the pricing point to sell many. A Sony a6000 with the APS-C sensor at 24MP can be had for $610 on Amazon with lens. Their X7 at $2,700 is way overpriced for that size format. The X5S body is around $1,300 and the X7 body with only 4MP increase could fit it around $1,600. The prime lenses in the vicinity of $500-$800, but not $1,700 as they are probably not that good, but just repackaged from someone else.
DJI is not RED or Arri nor even Nikon or Canon, but they think owning half of a poor video named Hassleblad they are worth it. They don't have the quality control to put out a functioning product and their Inspire 2 has enough issues with rattling props, video with lines, wayward pointing cameras, poor telemetry and radio disconnects, and their lousy support even with the Refresh package. Now they have proprietary carbon fiber lenses too which no one will make a lens for along with a year warranty where some others offer 2-5 years on lenses.
If they thought they were worth it, they need to stand behind their products better (like 6 month battery warranties that often show up DOA.).
As to an Inspire 3, they could even dump the X7 camera and go with something different. They did it with the Inspire 1 that won't take the Inspire 2 cameras, and will likely do it again. They could release an Inspire 2 Version 2 though next year that addresses the issues of the current one, much like the Inspire 1 Version 2 did and still keep the over-priced X7 around for a bit to unload it. They don't seem to want to build a system, but make something totally different and move on.
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