Nice day. Flying the newest of my P1s. Flys great. Decided to try out my F645 fixed pitch rotor helicopter. Looks great but has never flown worth a **** to me. But, helis will keep you on your toes. Phantoms spoil us. I also have a much better V400D02 heli. Never have flown it. It's a 3D unit. I did try to tame it down for simple flying. It has much more power and I have only played with it on a telescoping test stand I made for it. I just know I'll crash it. Anyway the F645 didn't crash but it was all over the place .I finally got a controlled hover. The responce from controller lags on altitude. It balloons up and down. All fun though. Even flying my three cheaper quads are so much harder to fly than my Phantoms. I guess you could compare it to putting a Phantom in full manual mode.